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FAKE Family - Wortham
« on: Wednesday 30 January 08 20:51 UTC (UK) »
I am trying to trace my grandfather John Frederick Fake born in Wortham Dec 1874. Fathers name John mothers name Laura Herbertina
I can find him on the 1881 census but not on the 1891 or 1901
Can any one help?
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Re: the family Fake from Wortham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 21:31 UTC (UK) »
Hallo and welcome to Rootschat Grin

Not sure if you are looking for the whole family after 1881, but this looks like Lauras death.


Laura Herbertina Fake
1887
Sep qtr.
Age 41 yrs.
District: Hartismere
Volume: 4a
Page: 399
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Re: the family Fake from Wortham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 21:50 UTC (UK) »
Possibily the marriage of Johns sister, who was born Laura Mable

Mabel Laura Fake
1902 
Dec  qtr.
District: West Ham 
County: Essex, Greater London 
Volume: 4a 
Page: 380



Possible grooms

John Henry Miller
Robert Francis Reilly


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Looks like Reilly as he and Mabel are in the same household in 1901

RG13; Piece: 277; Folio: 75; Page: 16.
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Re: FAKE Family - Wortham
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 February 08 21:16 UTC (UK) »
Hi to Suffolk Sue
Thanks very much for the info,I had found  the marriage details but not the census details,
I had found a birth of a child Sylvia Lauara M  Miller in 1904 and this seemed
a lead as it was her name and a Miller as well .
Have not been able to track down anything elseabout John Henry Miller though.  Iwould appreciate any info that you have on the Fakes I can trace them from 1861 back to1841 but cannot find them on the 1871 or the 1891 census             
                                 Best Regards  Burt
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Re: FAKE Family - Wortham
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 February 08 09:27 UTC (UK) »
As I say I believe Mable/Laura married Robert Reilly, as both being in the same household in 1901. Of course you would need to purchase the marriage cert to be absolutely sure.

What makes you think she married Mr. Miller?
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Re: FAKE Family - Wortham
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 February 08 10:38 UTC (UK) »
From Suffolk Marriage Index 1813-1837

Isaac Fake
Elizabeth Wilby

10th April, 1817 - Wortham


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Noah Fake - wid
Maria Clingo - wid

19th October, 1830 - Wortham


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Daniel Dove - wid of Bressingham, Norfolk
Anna Fake

6th November, 1818 - Wortham


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Henry Adams
Mary Ann Fake

16th October, 1827 - Wortham


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Several other Fake/Fakes marriages, but the above are the ones that took place in Wortham.



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These ones are on Boyds marriage index, incl. spell. var.

1780 / FAKE  JN / BRIGHTWELL  ELZ / WORTHAM 
1755 / FAKE  MARY  /FLATMAN  JN / WORTHAM 
1798 / FAKE  MARY / CARLTON  JOS / WORTHAM 
1731 / FEAK  A/  CHILVERS  SAM  /WORTHAM 
1699 / FEAKE  ISAC / HUMFRY  JEAN  /WORTHAM 

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Re: the family Fake from Wortham
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 February 08 11:22 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: suffolk*sue on Wednesday 30 January 08 21:31 UTC (UK)
Laura Herbertina Fake
1887
Sep qtr.
Age 41 yrs.
District: Hartismere
Volume: 4a
Page: 399

Herbertina FAKE
age 41, buried 12 July 1887 in Wortham
[Suffolk Burials Index]
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Re: FAKE Family - Wortham
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 February 08 12:20 UTC (UK) »
Found John Fake senior in Mellis in 1901.


RG13; Piece: 1765; Folio: 53; Page: 16

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Theres always the possibility that John junior was away fighting in the Boer war.
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Re: FAKE Family - Wortham
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 February 08 13:11 UTC (UK) »
Finally found the family in 1891  Grin Grin

Transcribed as SAKE

RG12; Piece: 1459; Folio 45; Page 2
Mellis
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Re: FAKE Family - Wortham
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 February 08 21:19 UTC (UK) »
Would it have been possible the Fake family would have changed their name to Thake, there was a large Thake family living in many areas of West Ham until the 1970's..

Please note, The County Borough of West Ham was changed in the mid 1960's to the County Borough of Newham.

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