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mbiggar
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A death registration I have from Hastings, 1849, has an additional column written in at the far right next to the registrar's column. It seems to read "Eleven F. C. I." The entire registration is very legible and neatly done and this note is in the same handwriting and seems to be additional information. The woman died of TB and may have been living and working in dubious circumstances. Her landlady reported her death at a small rooming house. She may have left a dependant child. Anyone know what this abbreviation means or what it might refer to?
Thanks in advance for any advice/clues.
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Godden/Godding Gallop from Sussex to Australia; Gelston from Ireland to Australia; Biggar from Scotland to Canada; Green from Ireland to Canada; Hodgkinson from Sheffield to Canada; Others in Australia - Powell, Doran, Pike, Ferriday, Bourke, Rumble, Whisler; Others in Canada - Bigham, Orr, Fairlie, McKay, McPhail, Kauffman
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi there
If you can give me a name and a date, I will check the burial register to see if it holds any further information
Chris in 1066 (Hastings)
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mbiggar
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Thanks Chris and Jane for your interest. Here's the info I have on this individual:
Death Certificate, Application COL268192 in 1849, District of Hastings, Sub-district of All Saints, Sussex, Entry no. 314 Harriett Godden died Thirteenth of April, 1849 at West Street, Saint Clement, Hastings, aged 40 years. Singlewoman (widow crossed out then wrote Singlewoman). Cause of death phshishis/phthishis (old term for consumption or tuberculosis) 3 years certified. Informant signed the mark of Elizabeth Reed in attendance at death, West Street, Hastings. Registered Sixteenth of April, 1849. Registrar Frederick Charles Inshipp. Additional box drawn with words like "Eleven F.C.I." written in.
National Burial Index, Harriet GODDING Date 17 Apr 1849 Aged 40 Place Hastings Description St Clements Denomination Anglican County code SSX (National Burial Index - Hastings and Rother FHS).
St. Clement's Church, Hastings, Burial Transcriptions 1835-1856: Harriet GODDING This Parish 17 Apr 1849 age 40
Elizabeth and James Reed kept lodgers. He was previously in the military and had been a shoemaker. The Reeds may have had family connections to another family that lived in the All Saints area with the last name Gallop.
An Alfred Mills Godden (my ancestor) ended up at a tailor's home, the Benjamin Gallop family, a few streets over in early 1850, was baptized at Hastings All Saints at the age of 8 (which tells me they were either not certain he had been baptized or thought he likely hadn't), mother's name Harriet (no father). 1851 census he is listed as an orphan, aged 9, living with the tailor's family (last name Gallop). Alfred later took the last name of Gallop by the time of his marriage in 1862. Harriet Godden who died 1849 is a possible mother to Alfred.
A Harriet Godden of a similar age had been at the workhouse, and may have had an illegitimate child (haven't found a bastardy order online), which may have been Alfred. No direct connections here, but I'm trying to piece together Harriet's life in case she is the mother of Alfred (or to rule her out).
I'll try to scan the registration and attach it to a separate posting. Thanks for your help.
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Godden/Godding Gallop from Sussex to Australia; Gelston from Ireland to Australia; Biggar from Scotland to Canada; Green from Ireland to Canada; Hodgkinson from Sheffield to Canada; Others in Australia - Powell, Doran, Pike, Ferriday, Bourke, Rumble, Whisler; Others in Canada - Bigham, Orr, Fairlie, McKay, McPhail, Kauffman
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Jane & mbiggar
Got to agree with you Jane on the initials, but not sure about the eleven bit?
Found the burial of Harriett Godding as listed - no further information contained within my database though.
Found the baptism of Alfred Mills Goddins in All saints on the 24th April 1850, son of -- & Harriett - but again my database does not indicate he was 8 years old? It is also the one and only Goddins surname entered into any baptism register at any time in Hasatings.
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mbiggar
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Hi Jane and Chris,
Ah good thinking about Frederick Charles Innship putting his initials. As I said, the entry is very carefully completed, so that would fit with what I imagine he was like as a registrar! The word that looks like Eleven is written above the three initials. It is definitely El___n the three middle letters might be something else, but it looks like Eleven. I rarely see notes at the side, so I thought it might be significant. I tried scanning the document, but I just switched my computer to Vista and it seems to cause problems with all previous software and devices. The printer works, but currently not the scanner... sigh...
Chris, the baptism you found is for Alfred Mills Godden. He later called himself Alfred Godden or Godding Gallop and his descendants followed the same pattern for the middle name. It was incorrectly transcribed for the Hastings baptisms database as Goddins because the handwriting was a bit hasty. He sometimes spelled his last/middle name Godding, and Harriet that was buried in 1849 was also Godding. The note about his age being 8 was again handwritten at the side margin of the entry.
As I took a last look at the certificate before ending this reply, I noticed that there was a mark above the crossed our word "widow" in box 5 for occupation. I always thought the mark was odd and deliberate, but didn't pay much attention to. Now that you have pointed out the FCI part, the Eleven would correspond to the mark above the crossed out word (it looks like one quotation mark above widow). Mystery solved - he's made a postscript with his initials to show that he made the correction - probably the eleventh correction in that section of his registrar book or something. Very meticulous fellow. I can't believe I didn't see any of those possibilities, but I guess I was looking at it too long thinking it must refer to something more significant.
Thanks for your suggestions and help with this!
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Godden/Godding Gallop from Sussex to Australia; Gelston from Ireland to Australia; Biggar from Scotland to Canada; Green from Ireland to Canada; Hodgkinson from Sheffield to Canada; Others in Australia - Powell, Doran, Pike, Ferriday, Bourke, Rumble, Whisler; Others in Canada - Bigham, Orr, Fairlie, McKay, McPhail, Kauffman
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Registrars had specific instructions about making corrections to entries in their registers, and all these had to be numbered and a separate accoint kept. The best example I saw was where a young woman registered the birth of her child, giving the name of her soldier husband and her own maiden name. A couple of days later she returned with her mother and owned up to being single. The resulting entry is a mass of numbers and crossings-out!
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