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Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« on: Saturday 02 February 08 15:20 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I wonder if anyone could please find me Robert Smith on the 1871 census. I think he was born circa 1847 and his wife was Jean. The last known area for this family was Cumbernauld and I have seen a match for Dumbartonshire, but I don't have access.

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 February 08 15:32 GMT (UK) »

1871

Registration number 498 ED 12 page 4


Kirkintilloch
Dumbartonshire
address Dalshanan
Robert Smith age 24 born Kinglassie Fifeshire Pitheadman
Jean wife age 24 born Cumbernaud Dumbartonshire
Alexander son age 3 Cumbernauld
John son age 1 Cumbernauld

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 February 08 15:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi Pat,

Do you have a birthplace for Robert and/or Jean? The only possible I can see in Dunbartonshire is this one:

Address: Dalshanan, Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire
Robert Smith, m, head, 24, pitheadman, Kinglassie, Fifeshire
Jean ", f, wife, 24, -, Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire
Alexander ", m, son, 3, -, Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire
John ", m, son, 1, -, Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire

From Alexander and John's births on the IGI, Jean's maiden name is showing as Arthur.

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 February 08 15:40 GMT (UK) »

1881
Registration Number 495 ED 5 page 25

Cumbernauld Dumbartonshire

No 9 Auchanstarry Row


Robert Smith age 35 Kinglassie Fifeshire Coal Miner
Jean wife age 35  rest born Cumbernauld
Alexander son age 13
John son age 11
Mary dau age 9
Robert son age 7  
Jeanie dau age 5
James son age 2

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 February 08 15:48 GMT (UK) »

1891

Registration number 495 ED  5 page 4

Cumbernauld
Dumbartonshire

No 3 & 4 Auchenslarry

Robert Smith ae 45 Kinglassie Fifeshire Colliery Oversman
Jeannie wife age 45 rest born Cumbernauld
John son age 21 Ironstone miner
Jeannie dau age 15
Jas son age 12
Thomas son age 10
William son age 8
Annie dau age 5
Agnes dau age 3

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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 February 08 15:59 GMT (UK) »

This is how it is transcribed

1901

Registration number 495 ED 5 page 5

Cumbernauld Dumbartonshire

address No 172 Auoninstarry No 3 & 4 Auchenslarrg Row

Robert Smith age 55   K*Glassie Fifeshire Colliery occupation Foersomave
Joan wife age 54  rest born Cumbernauld
Thomas son age 19 Coal miner
William son age 17 Coal Miner
Annie dau age 15 Domestic servant
Agnes dau age 13
Jean Harden grandaughter age 5


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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 February 08 16:26 GMT (UK) »

Thanks a lot Pam and Hume 24. This is the family I was looking for.
Thanks for finding them on the other census' too. I have got plenty to go off now.

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 February 08 16:28 GMT (UK) »

hello
Hume 24 found the surname Arthur could this be Jean Smith?

1861

Registration number 498 ED 14 page 4

Kirkintilloch
Dumbartonshire

Address Dalshannan

William Arthur age 40 Caster born Cumbernauld
Mary wife age 40 Cumbernauld
Jean Arthur age 14 niece cotton weaver born Cumbernauld


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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 February 08 16:46 GMT (UK) »

Thanks again Pam, yes I think this is Jean Smith and I now have the surname Arthur to go on.

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 February 08 16:49 GMT (UK) »

1851

Registration number 495  ED 6 page 32

Main Street

Cumbernauld Dumbartonshire

John Arthur age 42 Tailor and Clothier employing 3 men and 1 boy
Susan wife age 39 born Slamannan Stirlingshire
Catherine dau age 20 shop keeper all born Cumberland?? Dumbartonshire
Ann dau age 18
Elizabeth dau age 16
Agness dau age 14
James son age 10
Janet dau age 8
Susan dau age 6
Jean Arthur dau age 4 born Cumberland? Dumbartonshire
Mary dau age 2


James Arthur age 14 servant Journeyman Tailor Oldmontland Lanrkshire
John Black age 30 journeyman Tailor
John Loggie age 19 Journeyman tailor
Adam McColl age 24 Journeyman Tailor

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 10 February 08 15:02 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Pam for finding me the Arthurs in 1851. It seems like a good business they had.
Would there be any sign of them in 1841.
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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 February 08 07:14 GMT (UK) »

1841
Parish Number 495 ED 6
Cumbernauld
Dumbartonshire

Address North Main Street

John Arthur age 32  Tailor Dumbartonshire
Cath Arthur age 10 Dumbartonshire
Ann Arthur age 8 Dumbartonshire
Jean Arthur age 6 Dumbartonshire
Elisa Arthur age 4 Dumbertonshire
James Arthur age 1 Dumbartonshire
Agnes Arthur  age 2 Dumbartonshire

Susan Carrick age 30 Scotland

Dugald Carrie  age 40 Tailor J        Scotland
James Johnson age 20 Tailor J       Ireland
John Mclaughton age 25 Tailor J     Ireland
John Spaw age 14 Scotland Appr Tailor
Ann Arthur age 19 F S Dumbertonshire

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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 February 08 12:07 GMT (UK) »

Susan Carrick age 30 Scotland

This will probably be John's wife, Susan. I notice a lot of married women were listed under their maiden name in 1841 and even later. Smiley

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Re: Robert Smith- Dumbarton 1871 census
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 February 08 14:03 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Pam and Hume 24 for your replies. This is interesting.

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