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Topic: Middle name "Sahagoone""completed" (Read 706 times)
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AMBLY
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Well - Winston Churchill's 24xgt Grandfather was supposedly a SAHAGUN 
Pero Bernandes de SAHAGUN Way back in the 1100's or something  - however, if you do Google "Winston Churchill" + Sahagun, there are lots of hits of pages where both appear
http://fabpedigree.com/s008/f184602.htm
SAHAGUN
Does appear to be Spanish, and originating in Spain first........the first Sahagun in Mexico was a Franciscian Friar in 1529:
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/history/jtuck/jtquetzalcoatl.html
......and "Sahagoone" a phonetic rendering of the name?
I wonder if Thomas' second name, "Prince" went together with the third forename "Sahagoone" - so he was possibly named after someone known as "Prince Sahagun?" - was Thomas' father an army/military man. I wonder....?
Cheers
AMBLY
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Elizabeth Revel
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Fiona,
I see on your web site that Thomas Prince Sahagoone Harris was the son of Mary, born Bath, c1795. Bath at that time would have been a sophisticated society with at least a sprinkling of Europeans.
I have known people in Canada of Spanish heritage whose name is Chagun, (pronounced sh-goon) and wonder if that might be the source of the name in your family.
Checking with Family Search and Google does not give much lateral help with this name.
Beth
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SueTeakle
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Here is a marriage for you 
James White Prince (Chisledon, Wilts) & Mary Ann Harris (otp)
8th August 1822 at St Augustine the Less, Bristol - Licence
Grooms Occupation - Schoolmaster
Sue
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Fiona_T
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Thank you for all this information, the Spanish connection was one I hadn't come across before.
Sue - we are 4th cousins once removed.
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SueTeakle
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You`re most welcome Sue
Sue
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Fiona_T
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Sue, my sister contacted someone who went to the Wiltshire Record Office and checked there. He reported back with this information, you may haveit alreday, but just in case....
> In the Registers:
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> Baptized 14 Oct 1822, Thomas son of Thomas and Mary Harris of
> Wroughton, father's occupation coachman Baptized 14 Oct 1822, Henry
> son of Thomas and Mary Harris of Wroughton, father's occupation
> coachman
> Buried 19 Oct 1822, Henry Harris of Wroughton an infant
> Received into the congregation 29 Dec 1822, Thomas Prince Sahagoone
> son
of
> Thomas and Mary Harris of Wroughton, father's occupation coachman [NB
> the writing is consistent, no suggestion of "Prince Sahagoone" being
> added separately]
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> In the Bishops Transcripts the same information with the addition of
> the word "twins" in the margin by the entries on 14 Oct 1822.
Also my sister has speculated on the following:
"I have Charles Pickett, Wroughton marrying an Ann Humphreys with a son William b. 1733 Wroughton. This Charles Pickett is the 2nd great grandfather of the wife of Thomas Prince S etc. Charlotte.
William married an Allethea and had at least 7 children including a Charles b.1758 Wroughton. Could this be the one marrying an Ann Prince?"
Fiona
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Boongie Pam
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Could the name be due to a military connecton? There was a battle at Sahagun in 1809. If you do a search in the London Gazette for Sahagun you get some hits.
It's a long shot but y'never know?
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