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Annie Louisa Jones of Aldon


Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« on: Sunday 03 February 08 14:55 GMT (UK) »

Seeking information on Edward Jones b.1793 Bettws and wife Mary b.1799 in Aberhavesp. Children: Ann b.1824 in Bettws, John b.1827 in Bettws, Edward b.1830 in Llanllwchaiarn, Mary b.1832, Jane Hudson b.1834, Benjamin b.1837, George b.1839 all in Llandyssil, Charles b.1841 and William b.1845 both in Kerry. Mary Jones of Edenhope left a bequest for the building of a new Primitive Methodist chapel.
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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 March 08 17:09 GMT (UK) »


Hello Mimble

What information is it that you are looking for?

Are you seeking look ups in the census returns, parish registers etc etc?
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Ashton, Beaton/Betton, Bennett, Breese/Breeze, Crisp, Chandler, Challenor/Challinor, Crisp, Davies, Hudson, James, Jarman, Jenkins, Jones, Lewis, Mills, Owen, Owens, Richards, Simon & Trow - My Welsh ancestors from Montgomeryshire.

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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 March 08 18:12 GMT (UK) »

I am looking for anything pre 1837, as I have the census returns. Parish records of their births, marriages, deaths etc.
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Mary
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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 14:26 GMT (UK) »

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Seeking information on Edward Jones b.1793 Bettws and wife Mary b.1799 in Aberhavesp

Do you know Mary's maiden name?  If not, one of the later childrens' (post 1837) birth certificates will tell you.

(I can see some of the childrens' baptisms listed on the IGI, but of course no maiden name for Mum!)




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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 17:41 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the tip. I shall follow that up as that is one thing I do not yet know.
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Mary
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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 March 08 10:45 GMT (UK) »



Hello again

Your profile doesn't say where you are - UK or abroad? - but the National Library of Wales in Aberystwyth has all parish registers on microfilm, plus many other helpful sources.  I went there last summer and had such a successful day, finding many baptims and marriages.  I thoroughly recommend it!!!

If you can't get there in person, try phoning or emailing.....you never know Wink

http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=2
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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 March 08 13:40 GMT (UK) »

Nearest that I can find in either Betws or Aberhavesb is

Betws  7 April 1823 Edward Jones and Mary Hudson - both otp

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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 March 08 18:02 GMT (UK) »

This could be it! They had a daughter with the middle name Hudson, and I wondered if it was after her mother's maiden name.
Thanks so much Gadget.

I shall definitely make a point of visiting Aberystwyth, Lloydy - sound like just what I need. I live near London.
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Mary
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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
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They had a daughter with the middle name Hudson, and I wondered if it was after her mother's maiden name.

Mmmm....One of my GG Grandmothers was a Mary Jane HUDSON........ Smiley






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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 March 08 20:00 GMT (UK) »

Cor, Jan - could Mary be part of the family  Grin

I'll have a look for Mary Hudson after supper, Mary  Cheesy

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 March 08 21:37 GMT (UK) »


Just maybe Gadget!!!
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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 March 08 22:18 GMT (UK) »

can't find a baptism for a Mary Hudson but have found this:

Llanfair Caereinion 11 May 1797 John Hudson (illegitimate) Father Thomas Hudson, Aberhavesp. Mother Mary Davies, Llanfair

Undecided

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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 March 08 21:22 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Gadget!

In all the censuses it says that Mary was born in Aberhavesp (Aberhafesp), so Thomas could be her father, and Mary Davies her mother.  The fact that John Hudson was given his natural father's surname indicates a degree of commitment of the couple who may have gone on to marry. There is a very interesting social comment on illigitimacy in the Mainstone area of that time at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~acwager/Chester/XSM_TheChesterFamilyinMainstone.htm

(which incidently actually mentions my Jones family, as the Chesters worked on Edenhope farm at one stage.)
The writer of this webpage has gone to a lot of work to provide a background and context for his family at this time, and I have found it very interesting, as well as the Clun branch of his family, at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~acwager/Chester/XSM_TheChesterFamilyinClun.htm

as my Joneses married into the Hamar clan of Clun. I would like to find out more about the Jones family and their background as my Jones great grandmother has left me lots of family stuff.

What resource are you using to search the Welsh records, Gadget? The IGI doesn't seem much use for this area. I have joined the Powys FHS and wondered what would be the best thing to buy to be able to search the parish records properly. (I also have a Williams ancestor b. 1775 in Beguildy... )

Mary

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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 March 08 21:30 GMT (UK) »

Hi Mary

I have a CD of Montgomery Families and the Montgomeryshire records are now online at

http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/

also bits and bobs.

The National Archives:

http://www.llgc.org.uk/

also have some good resources online as well as on request


My Jones (and Ellis)  family were from Llangynog and I also have some Sandilands in Montgomeryshire  Smiley

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Re: Jones family of Edenhope Farm, Mainstone, 1851 - 1881
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 March 08 18:17 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for those leads. I shall try and follow them up.

You are lucky to have some slightly unusual names in your tree!

Mary
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