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Jane Swan
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Old photos in old frames
« on: Sunday 03 February 08 21:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi

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I have found 20 to 30 old photos in old frames in Mums loft. They are dusty and covered in grime. Is it OK to take all the photos out and put in archive albums or should they all remain in the old frames (which creates a storage problem)?

Documents:
After spending 3 years or more researching the family tree I also found about 12 BMD certificates. The earliest is a birth and baptism certificate 19 Dec 1828. This is a bit dirty after being in the loft for years in a suitcase. I intend to put it in an albumn (S & N Genealogy Supplies). The other option is to scan/photocopy it and put the original in a box. Am I taking the wrong option?

Other:
I have jewelry, medals, two 1920s dresses, a set of bowling balls, an army uniform, a wedding dress, loads of other bits and bobs. What am I supposed to do with it all? Should I keep it all?

I am so lucky getting all these photos and documents but they do create a headache in where to store them and how.

Jane
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 February 08 23:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jane

If I were you, I would talk to Prue about the best method of removing these photos and preserving them.  Prue is a professional restorer and I doubt there is anything she doesn't know about preserving photos and the best care to give them.

Cheers
Caz

PS Prue's user name is PrueM if you want to do a search and send her a pm.


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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 February 08 23:37 GMT (UK) »

Hi Cazza

Thanks for your reply. I must admit I hoped Prue would reply when she comes online. In a way my query is a bit daft as it sounds as though I am worried about decrease in the value but for what I have I would never part with any way.

Jane
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 February 08 23:48 GMT (UK) »

If you don't want to wait for Prue, there's a conservation tutorial at the top of the board, that's mostly Prue's material, I think.

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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 February 08 00:00 GMT (UK) »

Jane , I have dust in my loft !    Cry

You have a genealogical goldmine .   Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 February 08 00:12 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I am so fortunate but this is now it. No more lofts to crawl in. But I have got back to about 1720s in all 4 Grandparents. After that the registers exist but are not accurate enough to work out the direct history 100%.

Jane
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 February 08 00:33 GMT (UK) »

Jane

There's a good chance Prue will be along soon as she is an Aussie girl and it's 10.30am here.

China is right though about the tutorial.

Caz
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 February 08 00:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I have read the tutorials but the finds of this weekend cover so many diferent items. I know all about acid free and keep away from light but what is the point of having these treasures if we have to bury them away in boxes for ever.

I know the certificates should be wrapped in 'cotton wool' and buried in a box but if I put them in the S & N albumns will they be 90% ok and really used and treasured?  Also am I commiting sacrilege if I throw away all the old frames? Its not the value of the pictures I am bothered about as I would never part with them but am I commiting a terrible sin by parting the photos with their original frames and then throwing the frames away? The frames are not particularly spectactuar but are of the period. Some are lovely plastic and other are of scratched wood etc.

Jane
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 February 08 01:20 GMT (UK) »

Well...personally speaking, I wish we lived close enough so you could throw those frames my way !  Wink Grin

I don't know, but I don't think I could throw them away myself, purely based on age.

If I see Prue on the board today, I'll point her in your direction.

Cheers
Caz
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #9 on: Monday 04 February 08 01:22 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jane,
I'm at work right now but when I get home tonight I'll give you some advice about what you might be able to do with all your wonderful stuff...you are on the right track with it so far, in my opinion, but I need to have more of a think as you mention lots of different materials  Smiley
Check back in 10 hours or so!

Cheers  Cheesy
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #10 on: Monday 04 February 08 01:23 GMT (UK) »

Well...personally speaking, I wish we lived close enough so you could throw those frames my way !  Wink Grin

I don't know, but I don't think I could throw them away myself, purely based on age.

If I see Prue on the board today, I'll point her in your direction.

Cheers
Caz


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Too quick for you China!  Wink
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BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #11 on: Monday 04 February 08 01:29 GMT (UK) »

Haha , but I live close !    Tongue

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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #12 on: Monday 04 February 08 01:47 GMT (UK) »

Hi Prue

Space of course is restricted but I have so many things. I know I am so lucky but this is it as there are no other places to look now. I have washed a 1920s silk dress and a cotton dress but what do I do with them now. I also have my Mums cotton lace wedding dress from 1949 , underskirt, veil and Dads army uniform from about 1945 - 1948. I have 'silver' jewelry from 1940s Palestine, hundreds if not thousands of photos from 1870s to now, and now I need to empty Mums house. What do I keep and what do I throw away? I cannot keep everything.

I am worried about the old paper things as I want to see them but give them a much better chance of surviving than in the loft.

Another problem is artworks. I have some watercolours that are very old and from the loft. I do know one of the artists died in about 1815. The artists were mostly all from the Royal Academy so I will have them valued. I have taken up watercolour myself so I have put them in a flat box that my watercolour paper was delivered in. I have put tissue paper in between the pictures for the moment but it is not acid free, but it is better than the old electric blanket box they were stored in.

Great to hear from you again

Jane
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #13 on: Monday 04 February 08 01:49 GMT (UK) »

Jane

How about donating to a museum. At least in a museum, these treasure can be shared, your concience is clear and you can always visit the museum to view them yourself!

Caz

(or I'll pm you with my address and you can freight them over  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Wink Wink Wink)
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Re: Old photos in old frames
« Reply #14 on: Monday 04 February 08 03:19 GMT (UK) »

Wow  Oh Wow ,   Shocked Shocked  oh my ... you'll have to extend the house! .... you cant throw any away ...   Cry Cry  I'd murder for the photos !!  Wink Wink  ! Wink Grin Grin

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