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Re: RabbitB's Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #105 on: Today at 09:07:42 »
Quote from: Lesanne on Today at 08:26:17
Quote from: jc26red on Yesterday at 15:16:52
1871
but I think this is the family you discounted earlier, I don't think I would be too hasty at dismissing them though.

Margaret Burns 35 
Mary Burns 2 
Patrick Burns 34  working in the corn warehouse
William Burns 8 
 
both children born liverpool, Patrick and Margaret born Ireland
13 Snowdon St Liverpool

and this family

First children here... Ellen to arrive...  Grin

From Jenny page 6....
Did you check this birth?
Byrne  Ellen  Mar 1872     Liverpool  8b 172
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« Reply #106 on: Today at 09:19:16 »
thanks Les but that doesnt explain the Irish accent she had  Undecided - but it does explain the census and the birth  Smiley


now working on that census IF William was the oldest child born circa 1863 then Margaret and Patrick would have married before this date but not before 1857 and most likely in 1861 - when they were 25

where were they in 1861 ? here or there
maybe Patrick was from Galway and Margaret from Wexford they met on the quay to come to England and married there?

Rabbit - how certain are you that Margaret was nee Carr

there are no passenger lists from Ireland to the UK
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Re: Rabbit B's Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #107 on: Today at 09:27:59 »
Quote from: toni* on Today at 08:40:48
Quote from: Tephra on Today at 07:55:19



Right, a thousand ajolopies for making the mistake with the title.........for some reason unknown to man or beast, I put in Third Time Round........and it isn't!!    Cheesy   It should be fixed now.

SorrySorrySorrySorrySorry..............     Grin Grin Grin

Barbara

Hi

its 'cos when its my turn then Les and Deb it will be thrid time round  Grin


I've got to fit China in there somewhere.........she deferred for a couple of weeks while she got a cert she wanted.

So it will be

Toni

Lesanne

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With China in between one of them.

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Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Abbott In Islington
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston  ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton
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Re: Rabbit B's Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #108 on: Today at 09:28:17 »
With regard to the accent, perhaps she was born in Liverpool but moved to Ireland when she was young hence learning to speak with an accent?
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« Reply #109 on: Today at 09:29:55 »



Don't forget, Liverpool was a haven for the Irish, she might have picked up an accent from the neighbours!!

Barbara
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Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Abbott In Islington
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston  ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton
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« Reply #110 on: Today at 09:38:34 »
when Chyna (nyww) has her cert if she lets you know then you can squeeze her in there

and i don't think you can catch accents - but yes i had considered that maybe she (with or without the family) returned to Ireland in betwixt 1871 & 1881
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« Reply #111 on: Today at 09:39:49 »
Quote from: Tephra on Today at 09:29:55
Don't forget, Liverpool was a haven for the Irish, she might have picked up an accent from the neighbours!!

Barbara

Yes.. look at the amount of Irish Neighbours, and the first people are your parents.

Could they of been added the the New York/US/Canada return voyages...  Huh
Did the ships do a first stop Ireland before Liverpool...  Roll Eyes

Births Mar 1839   
Byrne  Patrick     Liverpool  20 355
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« Reply #112 on: Today at 09:54:12 »
 Takes bow doff cap and tugs forlock!  Just remembered, G.Grampa Byrne/Burnes was supposed to have worked for Lord Londonderry as his head Groom.

Does that help at all

Rabbit B  Huh

Patrick working as head groom approx 16yrs = 1855 + ish.
Who/where was Lord Londonderry then.......... Wink
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« Reply #113 on: Today at 09:55:33 »
Quote from: Lesanne on Today at 08:26:17
Quote from: jc26red on Yesterday at 15:16:52
1871
but I think this is the family you discounted earlier, I don't think I would be too hasty at dismissing them though.

Margaret Burns 35 
Mary Burns 2 
Patrick Burns 34  working in the corn warehouse
William Burns 8 
 
both children born liverpool, Patrick and Margaret born Ireland
13 Snowdon St Liverpool

and this family

Morning all,

I didn't discount this one, but where is Ellen?  Unless she was younger than stated on her marriage certificate that said 18 in 1889

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« Reply #114 on: Today at 09:59:04 »
born 1872  Smiley
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SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 years
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There is no current treatment
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Tomorrow is too late

Holman - Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj - Kiev Ukraine, Bentley - Bradford/Leicester, Taylor - Kent/Sussex, Punnett - Sussex, Richards - Leicester, Vinton - Cornwall, Beer - Devon
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Re: Rabbit B's Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #115 on: Today at 09:59:59 »
Quote from: toni* on Today at 09:19:16
thanks Les but that doesnt explain the Irish accent she had  Undecided - but it does explain the census and the birth  Smiley


now working on that census IF William was the oldest child born circa 1863 then Margaret and Patrick would have married before this date but not before 1857 and most likely in 1861 - when they were 25

where were they in 1861 ? here or there
maybe Patrick was from Galway and Margaret from Wexford they met on the quay to come to England and married there?

Rabbit - how certain are you that Margaret was nee Carr

there are no passenger lists from Ireland to the UK

Hi Toni,
I was told by my aunt,the last time she was in England, and my cousin was told the same by His mum, Dad's sister.

It is a question of not having any other info really and only knowing what I was told.

Rabbit B Huh
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« Reply #116 on: Today at 10:00:22 »
Les here you go

francis Henry Evans

Quote from: toni* on Yesterday at 21:53:34
this Lord Londonderry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Vane-Tempest-Stewart,_7th_Marquess_of_Londonderry

or the one before? Francis Henry Evans

anyhow - here in Englandif at one point your ancestor worked for the royal family you can contact the archivist at windsor they hold details
i wonder if they do over there in Ireland
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Tomorrow is too late

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« Reply #117 on: Today at 10:02:44 »
Quote from: Tephra on Today at 09:29:55



Don't forget, Liverpool was a haven for the Irish, she might have picked up an accent from the neighbours!!

Barbara

True, you should see the huge numbers of Irish on the censuses about that time.

Rabbit B
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« Reply #118 on: Today at 10:06:31 »
Quote from: Lesanne on Today at 09:54:12
 Takes bow doff cap and tugs forlock!  Just remembered, G.Grampa Byrne/Burnes was supposed to have worked for Lord Londonderry as his head Groom.

Does that help at all

Rabbit B  Huh

Patrick working as head groom approx 16yrs = 1855 + ish.
Who/where was Lord Londonderry then.......... Wink

I have no idea Lesanne,

Until my aunt told me this I had never heard of him, and I haven't found out anything although I have tried since I started FH.

Rabbit B
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Re: Rabbit B's Scavenger Hunt, everyone welcome to join in.
« Reply #119 on: Today at 10:09:30 »
thats what I am hoping for Lesanne... perhaps Rabbit can tell us later if she has checked the births out.

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note to self! must remember to look at the last page before replying  Tongue

The irish tended to live in communities in the cities and retained their accents, whether it be Liverpool or Sunderland or wherever there were clusters of them.  I think its possible that she had an Irish accent even though she was born in Liverpool.
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