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custard_pot
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Help Please - Fred / Frederick Proctor Completed with thanks
« on: Thursday 07 February 08 19:39 GMT (UK) »

Please can someone help me find Fred Proctor, I have found him on 1891 census and 1901 census but can't find him on any other.

Details I have are

Fred Proctor c1854 Yorkshire

This is the census I have found

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Census at Seaham Harbour Durham

I have possibly found him on 1861 census aged 8 and a boarder but not sure as birth place is down as Sheffield but can't find him anywhere else.

On 1891 and 1901 his occupation is Glass Bottle Maker.

I would be grateful of any help.

Christine


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Re: Help Please - Fred / Frederick Proctor
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 February 08 19:56 GMT (UK) »

Hi Christine,

Maybe the one born in Castleford born ca. 1851, son of William and Mary, is more likely, given his birthplace is Castleford in 1891?

1851: HO107/2330 262 51
1861 RG9/3439 53 18

I don't suppose you have his marriage cert ... it would not only tell you his father's name but also if he was a wiower when he married Elizabeth, given this possible man in 1881
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=25257649

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Christine in Portugal
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Re: Help Please - Fred / Frederick Proctor
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 February 08 20:00 GMT (UK) »

Could this be him in 1861 although birth year is a bit out, born Castleford 1851

RG9 Piece 3439 Folio 53 Page 18

Father William is a Glass Bottle Labourer.

I can post the details if you don't have Ancestry

Christine


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Re: Help Please - Fred / Frederick Proctor
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 08 20:20 GMT (UK) »

There is also one in 1871 says born Pudsey but he is boarding with Eli Procter and I saw that there is an Eli Procter boarding with yours in 1891.

RG10 Piece 4507 Folio 76 Page 23

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Re: Help Please - Fred / Frederick Proctor
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 February 08 20:56 GMT (UK) »

Thank you all for your replies. I have looked at 1851 1861 census and they look very promising even though the age is out. The 1871 census I cannot find Christine even putting in the Rg numbers that you hve given because that does sound good. I have even tried trying to get it with putting Eli for the name.

It is more than likely me Grin

Christine


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Christine in Portugal
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Re: Help Please - Fred / Frederick Proctor
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 February 08 22:53 GMT (UK) »

Hi Christine,

Here are the details from 1871

Eli Procter head 25 coal miner born Pudsey
Betty wife 25 born Stanningley
Hannah dau 4
Nancy 2
both children born Pudsey
Frederick boarder unmarried 21 born Pudsey
only thing is Fredericks occ is coal miner

Living at Burnley Lane, Whitfield Row
Pudsey, St. Lawrence, reg district Bradford

I have the image saved so if you still have problems finding it pm me your email address.

Christine

Just realised that the age of Eli is 10 yrs out to the one in 1891. Huh


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Christine in Portugal
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Re: Help Please - Fred / Frederick Proctor
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 February 08 07:36 GMT (UK) »

Hi again Christine,

Ignore the previous post, I've now found the correct family in 1871

He's mistranscribed as Tered Procter age 20

The whole family are there, he's still with his parents and siblings, found him by searching for his brother Henry age 19

RG10 Piece 4637 Folio 49 Page 34

Pontefract reg district, town Whitwood Mere

Christine


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Re: Help Please - Fred / Frederick Proctor
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 February 08 09:56 GMT (UK) »

Thank you all for your replies. You have been a great help and I think I have got most of it worked out now.

Thank you all

Christine


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