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emmsthheight
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 1897
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi
I've not tried anything in France before. I know one branch of the family had links there, but now I think there's a birth, which would fit with the family. I don't think there will be a baptism, as the IGI has a baptism back in England when the child was two.
I know there have been some very good posts on this subject and I've read many of them and looked at links.
Could some kind soul; bear with me though and confirm I've got this right and fill in the spaces as I can't find them all now.
Have I got this right? I think the birth is in St Omer. If I've got it right there will be civil records for early 19C, and I will have to write to a town hall or similar for the department, unless I'm lucky with the boards mentioned?
Also, for St Omer, would it be Pas de Calais I would have to write to, and can anyone give me a link to the address?
Also, do I have to send money, and what form is allowed and how much, or can anyone give me a link to a page with it on?
Thank you for bearing with me. I'm sure you've said most of it before, but there's so much good stuff on here, you don't always find it again!
Best wishes, and if I can help anyone with Cumbria links, feel free.
Good night.
Emms.
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Svenja
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Posts: 81
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Hi Emms
There are four St. Omer in France:
1. St. Omer (Calvados, Basse Normandie)
2. St. Omer (Pas-de-Calais)
3. St. Omer-Capelle (Pas-de-Calais)
4. St. Omer-en-Chaussée (Oise, Picardie)
You have to write to the Archives Départementales:
1. http://www.cg14.fr/quotidien/archives/
2. Archives Départementale Pas-de-Calais
3. Archives Départementale Pas-de-Calais
4. http://www.oise.fr/Tables_decennales_de_l_etat_civil.929.0.html
You will find the addresses on this website:
http://www.guide-genealogie.com/guide/archives_adresses.html
I'm not sure if they make the research for you.
If you can't go there by yourself, you can find here
a volunteer who will do the research for you:
http://www.entraide-genealogique.org/index_france.php
If you have problems with the French language I can help you.
I don't know anything about the payment, but I don't think
that you have to send money in advance.
Best regards
Svenja
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I can read and write German, English and French.
I can translate from Italian and Latin to the above languages.
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jorose
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Actually, I'd recommend writing to the Mairie (town hall) of St. Omer first, as some of the Archives Départementales won't do research. Include return postage (international reply coupons).
http://genealogy.about.com/library/blfrenchletter.htm - there's a model letter here.
ETA: if you have a LDS family history center near you, you can probably also get the records on microfilm.
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1897
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Thank you, Thank you, Svenja and Jerose!
How good is that? No time after I gave up Thank you Svenja for the kind offers of help too. the kind
I'll look at all you've given me, and have a think and get back.
I never thought of you r first reply though. Four St Omers! I should have. We have endless Skeltons, Hottons etc up here!
So the first thing is homework, and find out which St Omer! I only discovered the St Omer from two recently found census returns - one illegible and mis transcribed, one only recently identified after finding her marriage. By coincidence though, while doing searches to put this up. I found a reference to one for the family, so I will look at that and some books.
I'll get back later.
Thank you again and best wishes.
Emms.
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1897
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Hi and thank you again for all that.
I'm still not at the stage of being able to send off.
I've looked at all the family links and papers, and I think I'll have to have at least one educated guess.
I know that later family would have had an interest in the one where the RC seminary/college was, but the parents I'm after were of one of the Scottish churches and a strict agnostic. But maybe it's the same place.
I know that definitely, this would be a place frequented by writes and artists.
Coulkd anyone with mopre knowledge tell me if that suggests any one of the group of St Omers please?
Thank you for reading.
Best wishes
Emms
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loish
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Actually, I'd recommend writing to the Mairie (town hall) of St. Omer first, as some of the Archives Départementales won't do research. Include return postage (international reply coupons). http://genealogy.about.com/library/blfrenchletter.htm - there's a model letter here. ETA: if you have a LDS family history center near you, you can probably also get the records on microfilm.
Thanks,
Lois Hopkins
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emmsthheight
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 1897
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Lois
It's really kind of you to go to all this trouble. I thought you were just looking on yout site.
I'll see if I can find an address, but maybe someone more experienced than me will.
I'm thrilled to bits with the effort you've put in, but if it's a bigger job than you'd expected, I won't be offended if you want to leave it.
I must have a look at a map of France.
Thanj you again.
Emms
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jorose
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Mairie
Place René-Lannoy
62470 CALONNE-RICOUART
Tél. : 03.21.52.18.52
Fax. : 03.21.52.22.32
Maire : M. André Delcourt
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1897
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Hi
Thank you all for for your time. That's really kind.
I'll see what the experts think next!
Merci bien!  
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1897
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Hi
Thank you everyone who replied before. I can't believe that this was nearly eighteen months ago.
I've tried to narrow down wehich St Omer from a family point of view, but found no clues.
So now I'm trying to choose one. I was quite pleased I'd found threwe on a map today and decided, but now I find the old post and there were four!
To help my elimination, can anyone tell me please whether any on these in particular would have been especially popular with Victorian Artists and poets, especially the Pre-Raphaelites?
I think it must be one of the larger ones to be mentioned with no other reference on English censuses. Possibly one of the twosimply caller "Saint Omer".
Thank You and Best Wishes
Emms
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Augustine
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The good one could be Saint-Omer, Pas-de-Calais
...La ville en garde la trace par ces vestiges qui ont attiré, au 19e siècle, de nombreux artistes, dont le peintre anglais Bonington...
Saint-Omer attracted many artists, like Bonington...
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1897
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Hi Augustine
Thank you, and welcome to Rootschat!
That's the one I'm guessing at. I must admit, I can't find the fourth in my French Atlas.
I will look into doing something about that!
Thank you again. Enjoy Rootschat! I hope you get loads of responses too, when you start asking. Thank you for helping me out on only your 4th post!
Best wishes
Emms
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