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completed 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« on: Wednesday 06 February 08 22:03 GMT (UK) »

could someone please do a look up for Joseph Lawrence and his wife Alice on 1841 census also their son Alfred and wife Sarah on the 1861.
not sure if they are in chedworth
with thanks
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Re: 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 February 08 22:11 GMT (UK) »



Hi Redflag - any idea of age/date of birth and where born?
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
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Re: 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 February 08 22:42 GMT (UK) »


Hi -  on the 1841:

HO107. P 363 Fol.25 Pg.13

Chedworth

Joseph Laurence 30 Ag Lab . Born county
Evice Laurence  40.  B. county
Alfred Glover  15  Ag Lab.  B. county
Mary Glover  75  Indp.  B. county

Now - on the 1851 Joseph and Alice have Alfred living with them, described as son in law.  Is it Alfred Glover you want on the 1861 ?  I thought we were looking for Alfred Lawrence......

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Re: 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 08 07:07 GMT (UK) »

Hi mum44
yes it is alfred lawrence, i am looking for their places of birth. does it say on the 1851 or 61 census
thanks
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Re: 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 February 08 12:27 GMT (UK) »

Good morning.

1851 census
HO107. P. 1969 Fol.249 Pg. 9

Joseph Lawrence  Head  M.  40  Labourer. B. Gloucester, Chedworth
Alice Lawrence   Wife  M.  50  B.  Gloucester, Chedworth
Alfred Glover  Son in law.  Un.  25  B. Gloucester, Chedworth

Living in Chedworth.

1861 census
RG9. P. 1787. Fol 22 Pg.9

Smuggs Barn Cottage, Chedworth

Joseph Laurence  Head. M.  50.  Labourer.  B. Gloucester, Chedworth
Evice Laurence  Wife.  M. 60  B. Gloucester, Chedworth

There is no Alfred Lawrence or Laurence aged 35 born Chedworth.

However, found:

1861 census
RG9 P.1787. Fol 19 Pg. 4

Cheap Street, Chedworth

GLOVER
Alfred  Head  M. 35  Woodmans labourer. 
Sarah  Wife  M  35
Bettey  Dau  8  Scholar
Mary M  Dau.  6  ~
Ann  Dau  4

All born Gloucester, Chedworth

Hope this is helpful

NB: Surname alternates Lawrence / Laurence,  and first name Alice / Evice.
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Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 February 08 13:13 GMT (UK) »

Hi mum44, thanks for that, Huh now thats strange why Alfred would revert to his grandmother alice maiden name , i have him with wife sarah and 7 children.
ann 1853, betsy 1855, mary 1857 which show on the 1861 census as glover and i just found them as glover on the 1881, with daughter matilda aged 26. wold you please have a look at the 1871 census for me
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Re: 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 February 08 13:15 GMT (UK) »

oops i pressed there in error is it possable also to look at the dath of joseph lawrence born c1798
many thanks again
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 February 08 13:33 GMT (UK) »


Alfred first:

1871 census
RG10. P. 2651 Fol 17. Pg.2

GLOVER
Alfred  Head  M.  45  Parish Clerk
Sarah  Wife  45
Ann  Dau  14  Scholar
Philip  Son  9     ~
Joseph Alfred  Son  1

All born Chedworth, Glos. and living in Chedworth

Now - regarding the reverting to his grandmother's maiden name:  I don't think he reverted at all, I don't think he ever was Alfred Lawrence.

There is an extracted record on the IGI of his baptism:

Alfred Glover Baptised 15 May 1825 Chedworth.  Mother Avies Glover - no father named

and also an extracted record:

Avice Glover married 14 Nov 1833 Chedworth to Joseph Lawrence.

Alfred is Alfred Glover all along - on all censuses and his marriage - also an extracted record - to Sarah Smith in Chedworth 27 March 1852.

Joseph Lawrence was his step father (which explains the relationship son-in-law on the 1851 census - son-in-law sometimes meant step-son)

I'll go and look for the death reg. now, as requested.
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 February 08 13:44 GMT (UK) »



Joseph Lawrence :  died Q2. 1864. Reg, district Northleach

Avice Lawrence  :  died Q2 1877. Reg. district Northleach
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Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: 1841-61 census for chedworth look up please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 07 February 08 15:00 GMT (UK) »

Hi MUM44,
yes it does seem he was now born out of wedlock, i thank you for doing this search for me. has cleared it all up.
again many thanks
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