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Birth of Jean AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« on: Saturday 09 February 08 04:10 GMT (UK) »

GDAY:)
Looking for parents of a JEAN AULD, She was Born circa 1793 Maybe Longside Aberdeen, Married JOHN GRAY in 1814 in Longside Aberdeen
Any help woulld be much appreciated
Thanks
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Cathy:)
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Re: BIRTH of JEAN AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 February 08 08:11 GMT (UK) »

Hello Cathy,

Sorry, but no further forward.  However have put the children of this couple here to see if it helps others lurkers.  From the IGI:

Helen b. 1815
Thomas b. 1817
Mary ch. 1819
John b. 1820
James Barrack Gray ch. 1822
Alexander b. 1828
Christian ch. 1830

The more info you include the easier to check using naming patterns  :O)

Have searched the IGI without success.

From www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - The only female Auld in your timeframe is a Jane Auld born in Aberdeenshire in 1794 - but not in Longside.  (I'm on a self imposed credit limit to the website - sorry).

Where/when did your Jean die?

Regards,   Steve
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Re: BIRTH of JEAN AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 February 08 08:49 GMT (UK) »

GDAY Steve:)
Thanks for that Info
Have No Idea when Jean Auld Died, My Direct Line goes thru Daughter MARY Born 1818 Married JAMES WATT
5 Dec 1840 in Mill of Gight Fyvie Aberdeen
Noticed u have SMITH as a Dirrect Line in Aberdeen, so Do I
Thru BARBARA SMITH Married GEORGE GRAY 4 June 1775 in Monquitter Aberdeen
Regards
Cathy:)
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Re: BIRTH of JEAN AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 February 08 10:43 GMT (UK) »

Hello Cathy,

Tried death for Jean Gray on SP without success.

However, 'Jane Gray' - other name Auld born 1793 =/- 5 yrs = only one death entry in Scotland between 1855 and 1890.  On 31 Oct 1876 (aged 83), .  Living at a place called Rora.  Widow of John Gray (crofter).  Her father Thomas Auld - mother Mary Murray.  A son in law was witness.

I don't know if she is yours - but if you pm me I will send the copy.  Of note there is an amendement to this entry.  (Went back onto SP and downloaded the RCE entry - sad reading)

FYI, the free 1841 census at www.freecen.org.uk has this Jane and husband John,  aged 48 yrs  at Rora with daughter Christian.  His occupation at the time, drystone dyker.

For various reasons will not be able to help with this thread - perhaps others can with census and suggestions?

Good luck.

Regards,   Steve
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My Smiths - mmmh...  bit of a brick wall with mine, ends with a 9 yr old agric lab on the 1841 census called Joseph Smith.

His parents were a David Smith and Ann Moir of whom I can find no trace.  I need to start back on my own family   :O)





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Re: BIRTH of JEAN AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 February 08 12:37 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Here's the census records for John and Jane:

1841 Address: Rora, Longside, Aberdeenshire
John Gray, m, 48, drystone dyker
Jean ", f, 48, -
Christian ", f, 11, -

All born Aberdeenshire.

1851 Address: Mossnook, Rora, Longside, Aberdeenshire
John Gray, m, head, 60, farmer (4 acres) stonedyker, Longside, Aberdeenshire
Jane ", f, wife, 60, -, Crimond, Aberdeenshire
Hellen ", f, dau., 34, farmer's daur (employed at house), St Fergus, Aberdeenshire
Elizabeth ", f, g-dau., 5, scholar, Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire

1861 Address: Moss-side, Longside, Aberdeenshire
John Gray, m, head, 71, tanner [farmer?] of 4 acres, Longside, Aberdeenshire
Jane ", f, wife, 71, -, Crimand, Aberdeenshire

1871 Address: Moss-side, Rora, Longside, Aberdeenshire
Jane Gray, f, head, 81, farmer's widow, Crimond, Aberdeenshire

Looks like John's christening here: 23 July 1789 Longside to parents John G and Helen Wilkin.

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Re: BIRTH of JEAN AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 20:04 GMT (UK) »

GDAY piglet and Hume:)
Thanks so much for that info, Much appreciated
Looks like the Family
Children i have to them are
MARY born 1818

JOHN..Born 1820
THOMAS....Born 1817
HELEN..Born 1815
JAMES BARRACK ..Boen 1822
ALEXANDER..1828
CHRISTIAN..1830

MARY GRAY is my Direct Line marroed JAMES WATT 5 December 1840 in mill of Gight Aberdeen

If u ever need help with research in Australia please let me know too, More than glad to Help
Regards
Cathy:)
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Re: BIRTH of JEAN AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 April 08 12:15 BST (UK) »

Hello Seaeagle,

Jean Auld is my greatx5 grandmother.

I don't have a date of birth for her, but her date of death would suggest that she was born in 1790.

Jean Auld, widow of John Gray, died on 31st October 1876 aged 86 in Longside.
Her death certificate gives her parents as Thomas Auld (Crofter) and Mary Murray. I have been unable to find out more on this couple.

I descend from Christina Gray (c.1833-1885).

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Re: BIRTH of JEAN AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 09:03 BST (UK) »

GDAY windsor:)
Thanks for your Reply and info
Dont know much about Christina
this is my Exs line im researching for our Daughters
Ours go thru MARY GRAY, Daughter of JOHN GRAY and JEAN AULD
She married James WATT 5 dec 1840 Mill of Gight Fyvie Aberdeen
their Son George WATT came to Australia and was the Girls Grandmothers Grandfather
Ahhhh Be interesting to try and fin out more info on MARY MURRAY and THOMAS AULD
Will keep looking
Regards
Cathy:)
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Re: BIRTH of JEAN AULD Circa 1790s Aberdeen
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 11:57 BST (UK) »

Hi SeaEagle,
I will give you my assumptions on the ancestors of Jean Auld and John Gray. By no means take this as gospel!

Jean Auld
Born 29/08/1790 at St. Fergus, dau. of Thomas Auld and Christian Murray. (Her death details give the mother as Mary). Also, this Jane was born of an act of 'fornication', so I'm guessing she was illegitimate. Unfortunately the line ends there.

John Gray
Born 23 Aug 1789, Longside, Wester Rora., son of John Gray and Helen Wilkin (given as Walker on death cert).
John Gray Snr, born 24 Dec 1741 at Rora, Longside. Son of Alexander Gray (Tailor).

Unfortunately that is as far as I have got.

I do have two prospective births for out Thomas Auld, both in Peterhead. The first born in 1850, and the second in 1773. This would make the former aged 40 at Jean's birth and the latter 17. I'm not plumping for either of them yet.
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Dumfriesshire:
Bryson, Harkness, Scott, Roddick, Armstrong
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