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Aldingbourn House Sussex
« on: Saturday 09 February 08 08:53 GMT (UK) »

Help please !!

I am trying to trace a Florence Brooks whom i have down as servant no, 5 Aldingbourn house Sussex,  she Had a child in 1898 father unknown ?

I have found her in the 1901 census aged 22 yrs under the name of Willis which i knew her as,  with her child Alfred Edward Marshall Willis aged 2yrs , where she got the name Willis i don't know.? 

I am trying to trace this for a childhood friend who supplied the infomation about Florence his Grandmother !

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Re: Aldingbourn House Sussex
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 February 08 09:22 GMT (UK) »

i am not sure what exactly you are looking for
are you saying that florence brooks in 1891 and florence willis in 1901 are one and the same?
only you already have florence willis in the 1901 with her sister and husband
here she is in 1891 still named as florence willis.
1891 RG12/842/61/3.
john willis age 49. b. east wittering. occ. agr.lab. head.
sarah willis age 48. b. boxgrove. wife.
thomas willis age 20. b. felpham. occ. agr.lab. son.
rosetta willis age 15. b. wisborough green. daughter.
florence willis age 12. b. pulborough. daughter.
lydia willis age 10. b. singleton. daughter.
annis willis age 8. b. ditto. daughter.
arthur willis age 7. b. ditto. son.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 February 08 09:24 GMT (UK) »

just noticed you have amended  from 1891 to 1898
now i understand what you want.
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Re: Aldingbourn House Sussex
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 February 08 09:30 GMT (UK) »

I am glad you understand it wozzle because I don't!  It is obviously too early for me to cope with conundrums. How does Aldingbourn House fit in?
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 February 08 09:33 GMT (UK) »

Yes sorry about that read as 1898 for Alfred Willis ,,

Its a bit confusing but that is all the info i have Huh

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 February 08 09:39 GMT (UK) »

where did you get the info regarding her having a child in 1898 and also regarding her being at aldingbourn house and why do you think florence brooks and florence willis are one and the same.
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Re: Aldingbourn House Sussex
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 February 08 09:59 GMT (UK) »

Hi Wazzle.

Yes all rather confussing i know but the info, from my old childhood friend is exactly  has he gave it to me,  Alfred is his father whom i knew ,, all he knows about his grandmother is she was always called Gran, Brooks! and she was a servant  at Aldingbourn House, servant no 5.

It's looking more confussing by the minute as i haven't found a Florence Brooks to match ether Huh

my friend now lives in Australia and thats all he knows re his Grandmother ??

I can find her under Willis OK so it might be a lost cause without more info??

I have looked in the census for Aldingbourne House but no luck,  i have only found it under a Richard Hasler  ,, so i wonder if there is another name at Alderbourne house for the squire later then Richard ??  as Florence was to young under Richard Hasler ??

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Re: Aldingbourn House Sussex
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 February 08 13:22 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

i think you need alfred's birth certificate to confirm his mother and possible father listed.

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Re: Aldingbourn House Sussex
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 February 08 13:40 GMT (UK) »

Don't know if this will help in any way, I assume you mean the Aldingbourne House near Chichester West Sussex, I can't think of another one.  Originally it was a Sanitorium, then a psychiatric hospital and now converted into flats/private dwellings.

The Florence Willis in 1901 is the same as the 1891 Florence, at least this lady is living in the right area to have worked at Aldingbourne. 1901 she states 'single' so not claiming to be married or widowed.

Alfred Edward MarshallWillis, is there a clue to his father there?  any likely looking male Marshalls around at the right time?

Maybe she was married to a Mr Brooks at a later date, hence Gran Brooks!

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I have found her in the 1901 census aged 22 yrs under the name of Willis which i knew her as,  with her child Alfred Edward Marshall Willis aged 2yrs , where she got the name Willis i don't know.? 
  Willis was her maiden name, she later either invented or married a Brooks
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Re: Aldingbourn House Sussex
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 February 08 14:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi suey

yes i noticed a marshall listed Hmmmm !! the thought did enter my mind as well,  it would explain the marshall in his name,  and there is a young marshall in one of the census??

I have also think as you she took the name Brooks at a later date for whatever reason. / but still unable to find her in Aldingbourne house listed as a servant ?? unless she wasn't there on the census day ? i can't find any other name as the owner's of Ald, house other then Richard Hasler unless one of his son's become the squire  at a later date. @

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Re: Aldingbourn House Sussex
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 February 08 17:26 GMT (UK) »

Alfred Edward M Willis is registered in the births at Westhampnett Oct/Dec 1898 ref 2b 367.
You have already found Florence in 1891 and 1901 therefore she cannot be in a census at Aldingbourne - at least not one available to us at present.    Maybe she worked there later?   In any case she may not have been a live in servant therefore she will only be shown where she was living.   It is possible that the records of Aldingbourne House are at the Record Office in Chichester.  
I should also look for a marriage to a Mr Brooks as that does seem a likely scenario.
What are you actually trying to find out about her?  You have her parents in 1891 so can go back from there.   Her death might help too.   Any idea when that was?
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 February 08 19:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sillgen

You are most probably right in what you say,   my friend wanted to try and clear up the Brooks part as that's all he knew her as when he was a child and the servant bit at Aldingbourne House ?

it seem's that she has to be a Willis that much i am sure of anyway,  i will try a marriage to a Brooks ,  as i have had no luck with a Florence Brooks that fits the info, i have.

he is positive she was always known as Gran, Brooks ? to the family .

thanks for your time ,, if i find a marriage i will post an update here.

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 09 February 08 19:28 GMT (UK) »

My grandmothers were always known as Grandma Sill and Grandma Brown so I would assume this was the same and that she married a Brooks and was known to the children as Gran Brooks.   Chasing the death would show her birthdate and maiden name with luck.
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 09 February 08 19:37 GMT (UK) »



Yes i am looking now for a marriage of Willis to Brooks , after 1998 ,

wish me luck

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 09 February 08 20:49 GMT (UK) »

There is no point in looking before 1901 as you know she was still single then.
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