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TriciaAnn
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Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« on: Saturday 09 February 08 18:21 UTC (UK) »
Hello
I wonder if anyone has access to trade directories for Carshalton from 1881 onwards please.
I am interested in a family of McCarthys who were living and working at o the Greengrocers Shop, High St., Carshalton and how long they were there. In 1881 the greengrocer was a Charles McCarthy aged 44 but the head of the household was a  Charles McCarthy aged 70 Farm labourer. Would be very grateful for any help.
Thankyou
Pat
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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 February 08 19:05 UTC (UK) »
in 1891 the mccarthys were still there but charles aged 50 was an agr.lab.
his son daniel aged 21 was a greengrocer.
taken from census 1891.
1891 RG12/542/82/5.
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TriciaAnn
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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 February 08 19:46 UTC (UK) »
Hi
Thankyou  for that info. I wonder if you can give me the address please, and names of anyone else there with them?
Also, I have found him, , his wife Catherine in 1901 also a Timothy McCarthy aged 22 born Ireland . Can you also guive me that address etc please. I am very grateful for you very kind and speedy help
Thanks
Pat
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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 February 08 13:19 UTC (UK) »
1891 RG12/542/82/5.
charles mccarthy age 50. b. ireland. occ. agr. lab. head.
katherine age 47. b. ireland. wife.
daniel age 21. b. carshalton. occ. greengrocer. son.(unm)
ellen age 19. b. ditto. daughter.(unm)
margaret age 16. b. ditto. daughter.
lizzie age 6. b. ditto. daughter.
living at high street,carshalton,surrey.

it doesnt actually say which number they are living at so could quiet possibly not be the greengrocers shop although the chances are that daniel is the greengrocer in the shop from 1861.
they are living next door to a public house "kings arms"
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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 February 08 16:02 UTC (UK) »
1901
timothy mccarthy is not with charles-catherine
here he is.
1901 RG13/579/43/26.
henry.j.bedford age 55. b. newport,bucks. occ. coach builder. head.
eleanor.j. age 59. b. paddington. wife.
james.a. age 24. b. st.lukes,london. occ. gen.labourer. son.
amelia francis age 75. b. perranwall,cornwall. occ. living on own means.
ellen stovell age 50. b. cork,ireland.
patrick coakley age 24. b. ireland. occ. labourer on the roads. boarder.
timothy mccarthy age 22. b. ireland. occ. navvy. boarder.
living at 104,avenue road,carshalton,surrey.
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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 February 08 16:09 UTC (UK) »
1901
RG13/579/82/53.
age is a bit out for charles though
mary ann rose age 41. b. carshalton. occ. parish nurse(sick) head.
charles mccarthy age 70. b. ireland. occ. agr.lab. boarder.
catherine mccarthy age 59. b. ditto. boarder.
living at allens yard,carshalton,surrey.
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TriciaAnn
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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 February 08 17:45 UTC (UK) »
Thankyou VERY much once again for all that help. Really grateful
Pat
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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 February 08 17:50 UTC (UK) »
I think it might have gone - the pub certainly has!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/15/a2099315.shtml

meles
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Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 February 08 17:52 UTC (UK) »
... but there's an old photo here!

http://www.norfolkpubs.co.uk/mysteries/found3.htm

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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk
Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
TriciaAnn
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Re: Greengrocers shop High St Carshalton from 1881
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 February 08 22:11 UTC (UK) »
Thankyou Meles  Smiley
Pat
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