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I'm not trying to convince anybody - just trying to help 
These MI's are from the Mitchell & Mitchell pre-1855 books and yes, I agree that they can be wrong for umpteen reasons. You'd be amazed (or maybe not) at how many of the transcriptions in these books are completely wrong.
My all time favourite was Hellen Kekkijoo of Dunipace. This entry had intrigued me for some time and when I eventually found the stone, it quite clearly says Hellen Kerwood . . . . . need I say more?
I don't ever 'guarantee' dates on MI's to be correct, I just pass on as much info as I can and it's up to the individual to research further.
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Gadget.
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Sorry Anne 
Dave and I have been working on this all day and have been going around in circles with the John *rl*n*s as the previous messages on the thread will show.
The only one that fits the evidence is the James and Elizabeth one b. 1758. Tracey said that he was dead by 1841 and must have had a good reason for saying that.
The MIs - I've seen some of them. One of mine had an ancestor about 50 years older than her husband and who would have given birth at 67 
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daval57
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If you two kiss and make up, I'm off for that wee sherry this time! 
Tracey, glad we cleared all this up for you - snigger, snigger!
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257Census information is Crown Copyright |
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apanderson
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What do you mean Dave???
Us ladies don't need to kiss and make up, we didn't fall out - did we Gadget?
Silly boy Dave - are you sure it's just a wee sherry you're having?
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daval57
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I'm just being a bloke!
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257Census information is Crown Copyright |
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Gadget.
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No, Anne. Think it's just frustration that the records aren't clear enough and in the end we have to use probability 
No will/TT found for John, although his son and wife left TT or inventories. I wonder if there's anything in the Kirk Sessions Minutes
I think Dave might be having some of the RabRory stuff that was on a photo thread earlier today
Tracey might be able to use some of the MIs to track the earlier generations. They seem to have been in the area for quite some time.
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daval57
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RabRory?
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257Census information is Crown Copyright |
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That says it all then
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Just to add a little something. I don't think we've put it up -
Marriage/Banns Kippen 16 June 1740 James Parlan and Elizabeth McLuckee
Good name that 
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daval57
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Nice one to get us back on track Gadget.
No, we haven't put that one on yet.
I'm still trying to lay all this out in tree form to try and get to grips with it but I keep losing myself.
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257Census information is Crown Copyright |
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Now I've caught a fish alive, I'm going to have to be the dotty one
I've looked up Elizabeth McLuckie but a few too many and not quite right for the 1740 marriage 
Any MIs for them, Anne ?
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Gadget.
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Used my last unit:
Baptism 1st Nov 1719 Kippen Elizabeth McLuckie d/o Robert McLuckie and Janet Leckie
Now Dave, you try to say those names very quickly
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daval57
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Why? Were they pheasant pluckers?
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257Census information is Crown Copyright |
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daval57
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Seriously,
2 entries that are interesting for marriages -
11/3/1717 Robert McLuckie to Jannett McLuckie GROS 484/ 0010 0399
3/7/1718 Robert McLuckie to Jannett Leckie GROS 484/ 0010 0400
I've just got to get those images to ascertain why two entries back to back.
Both are in the same Parish.
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Never fails to amaze me how lovely the writing can be way back then - wee snippet attached. OK, it's not Copperplate. However, it's a lot better than I can do with a quill and ink!
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1st doc:
"Proclaimed Robert McLuckie *
17 Febry @ Kippen
Jannet McLuckie
Married 11 March 1717 (hey, that was my mum and dad's anniversary - not that year!)
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2nd doc:
"Proclaimed Robert McLuckie Kippen Married July 31st
June 22 Jannet Leckie Drummond
1718
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The 2 docs appear to be original consecutive pages from the same record - the dates run from "10 Febry 1717" to "July 13th 1718"
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