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Re: Marriage & Death look up: Younie
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 21 February 08 11:03 GMT (UK) »

I have a picture of James Snr's son headstone from Rothes Cemetery (over the road from Glengrant distillery) good spot to soak up a dram or two!

Alexander Younie b 31/8/1868 d 14/12/1913 (44); wife Jessie Anne d 23/4/1970 (91); daughter Mary d 1987 (87).

Old James Snr was a strict father,  I thought Alex went to USA but it was his nephew.  James (my Gt Grandpa) went to Tasmania and never went back.

There were  all these born and bred and working in Rothes     - James Youne (1st generation) B 1765, wife Margaret ;
their son Alexander (2nd)d 1857 his wife Margaret;
their son James(3rd) d 1909 (in New Spynie). (James Snr) 1st wife Jane d 1874 in Rothes; 2nd wife Helen Shearer ??
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Re: Marriage & Death look up: Younie
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 21 February 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »

How confusing is that?

Located a few of them on the Libindix.  There's lots of Younie's in the Moray area all born about the same time all having the name James, Alexander, Margaret, Ann, Jessie, John etc etc.

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Re: Marriage & Death look up: Younie
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 21 February 08 22:22 GMT (UK) »

Just pondering.

Helen Shearer YOUNIE could have died before James Younie who died in 1909 (82) - his son signed his death certificate.  James may have been living with him in Fochabers - he had senility someone had to be looking after him.

Helen was born in 1847 and was a Spinster when they married in 1879 (32) - could have died first?

Frustrating when leads come to a brick wall isnt it?

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Re: Marriage & Death look up: Younie
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 21 February 08 23:55 GMT (UK) »

Barb

Death certs would normally show whether he was a 'widower/widow of...' or 'married to...'

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Re: Marriage & Death look up: Younie
« Reply #19 on: Friday 22 February 08 02:59 GMT (UK) »

Duh good thinking Embarrassed.  I have a copy of his death certificate.

It says married to:- 1. Jane Stewart 2. Helen Shearer.  He died on 23/11/1909 at "The cottage, Woodlands in the Parish of New Spynie"  (Could it have been a nursing home or did they have them then?).  Senile decay.  (No mention of issue, widowhood or such like)

Signature of informant is his son John Younie, Fochabers. A bit missing on edge but looks like November 24 at New Spynie signed by the same Registrar as on the main part of the form.   Is this  his funeral?

I guess then this means Helen has gone before him?

Sometimes I chase my tail.  Where would be records be for his grave?

I dont know where wife No 1  (gt gt grandmother) is interred d 7/2/1874, also there were 2 bairns who died in 1864,1869 and 3rd 6.5.1874.  As I said previously they arent in Rothes as I only found his son Alexander and family.

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Re: Marriage & Death look up: Younie
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 27 February 08 00:30 GMT (UK) »

I have a copy of his death certificate. It says married to:- 1. Jane Stewart 2. Helen Shearer .... I guess then this means Helen has gone before him?
No. It means Helen was still alive. If she had died before him he would have been described as 'widower of 1. Jane Stewart and 2. Helen Shearer.'

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Sometimes I chase my tail.  Where would be records be for his grave?
Elgin, in the council offices. There are also microfilms of the burial ground registers in the Heritage Centre, but it could take a while to go through them if you don't know which cemetery he is in.

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I dont know where wife No 1  (gt gt grandmother) is interred d 7/2/1874, also there were 2 bairns who died in 1864,1869 and 3rd 6.5.1874.  As I said previously they arent in Rothes as I only found his son Alexander and family.
Do you mean you didn't find a stone? The absence of a stone does not mean they are noy buried there, because probably the majority of folk didn't have stones. If they died in Rothes in the 1870s it is extremely likely that that are buried in Rothes.

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A bit missing on edge but looks like November 24 at New Spynie signed by the same Registrar as on the main part of the form.   Is this  his funeral?
No. you don't get funeral details on death certificates after 1860. If it is in the left margin, could it be a RCE (Register of Corrected Entries)?

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"The cottage, Woodlands in the Parish of New Spynie"  (Could it have been a nursing home or did they have them then?).

It was probably his home, or the home of a relative who was looking after him.

Have you looked in Scotland's People for the death of Helen Shearer or Younie? She will be indexed by both her maiden and her married name, so she shouldn't be hard to find.
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Re: Marriage & Death look up: Younie
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 27 February 08 01:42 GMT (UK) »

Thank you one and all.

Thank you Forfar... that will help me get on the right path again.  Strange how this stuff works. Grin

It makes you think outside the square doesnt it?

See further up - I have had a good look at the photos I have and it isnt Alexander Younie but Alexander JACK's grave with his wife Jessie Anne Younie - (a missing Grand aunt I have found now - sister of Alexander Younie), which means he probably did go to Canada and his son was an Airman in WW2 who came back to UK to be in the War.  He visited the family in Lossiemouth during the war.

Many thanks for you help to all.

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