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Cleughbrae , mouswald
« on: Monday 11 February 08 15:06 UTC (UK) »

Has anyone out there have any knowledge regarding the hamlet of Cleughbrae near Mouswald , regards stoop.
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 February 08 18:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi stoop,

Geographically this site tells you where it is:
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/towns/townfirst5269.html

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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 06:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi , Pam thanks for you response. I should have been more specific in my e-mail , on my way into Dumfries I have driven past Cleughbrae and have been curious as to where in the hamlet particular Kerrs lived in the 1841 census it does not pinpoint the address other than Cleughbrae , ,thanks again Pam , regards stoop .
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 January 09 07:48 UTC (UK) »

just looking at old posts cleuchbrae had at least 12 cottages and continued down the hill towards mouswal church a lot of the kerrs there were related particularly to mouwald banks kerrs where there were several families all related also to the kerrs birset dalton csc
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 January 09 12:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi csc, thank you for your reply. Your information adds to my knowledge regarding the the extent of Cleughbrae. Can you possibly tell me how many farms there are in Cleughbrae, the only one Ihave spotted is the one just off the main road above Mouswald. Regards stoop.
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 January 09 13:12 UTC (UK) »

i think there may have been more than one i think if a person even only had 1 field he was called a farmer i know that my ancestor george kerr was sometimes described as a farmer and sometimes as an agricultural labourer on his childrens certificates cleuchbrae was quite an assortment of industry and people helped each other out they did whatever came along and quite a few children died they moved from farm to farm sometimes twice in a year i dont have 2 of georges children born at the same place in my own family i am the eldest of 8 and none of us born the same place thanks csc
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 January 09 13:26 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for your rapid reply, my particular interest is relating to one James Kerr married to a Martha Moffat tenant in Cleughbrae he was born around 1718 and died in 1789, it looks as if he lived in Collin for a while as a couple of his children were born there . Jumping forward in time one of his daughters , Rachel remained in Cleughbrae ,unmarried she was joned by her sister in law Mary Kerr widow of Thomas Kerr a son of James. In the census of 1841 they were described as living in the farmhouse at Cleughbrae. Who was your George related to?, I suppose possibly my line. Regards stoop.
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 January 09 13:41 UTC (UK) »

my george and mary dickson were the parents of my francis buried mouswald my great gran mary agnes is in the same grave she was alive when i was small we have been trying to find out who georges father is i have got several possibilities i have lots of papers for mouswald and dalton births and some torthorwald i am working with my sister akc on this thanks csc
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 January 09 14:09 UTC (UK) »

I suppose Francis Kerr of Dumfries is alikely candidate for the parent of George Kerr who was born in 1784, trying to seperate the Kerr families is a real battle, particularly when they were living so close to each other and inter marrying. During our searches the same names keep appearing so we start thinking they must belong to us . Regards stoop.
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 January 09 14:23 UTC (UK) »

we were looking at the possibility of george kerr and margaret harkness son george born 1778  or george kerr and ann davidson but we cant find a george for them george and marys first child that we can find is robert hendeson kerr 1801 whitecroft george may not have been registered but we do know there is a connection with mouswald banks  and our gran agnes kerr was born elizafield which also has big connections the last time i was at mouswald cemetery it was pouring down and i did not get a good look but i am going back shortly and i will take my notebook i was trying to put the kerrs in their families the ones i know of were extremely hard working people the women were all kindly including granny who looked after everybody i had ruled out the francis kerr ones from dumfries as i thought they went over near lockerbie  thanks csc
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 January 09 14:52 UTC (UK) »

My lot lived and died around Mouswald Banks ,Elizafield , Birset, Racks, Mouswald, Topmuir, Whitecroft, Beyond The Burn, many are buried in Mouswald Kirkyard. I would not be surprised if we did share a common ancestry. regards stoop.
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 January 09 16:15 UTC (UK) »

yes i think we do if i get any more info i will let you know i saw you were looking for a robert on the cumberland side we also share something similar if you look at rootschat for cumberland you will see i am looking for margaret sparks my granny agnes kerr was married at brydekirk to joseph sparks charlton from near cockermouth he must have been here working he was at limekilns granny was at edge thanks csc
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #12 on: Monday 12 January 09 17:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I too will let you know when I find out more during my researching, totally absorbing isnt it?. regards stoop.
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #13 on: Monday 12 January 09 18:59 UTC (UK) »

yes once you get started you cant put it down i did not realise there were so many kerrs in one small area and they are only 1 part of the family  another item i did not realise until i got into it kirkcudbrightshire started on this side of the nith lots of kerrs in troqueer   one of them alexander kerr at moat cottage with his sister jane mcgowan probably your lot he must have had a shop some on the new abbey road as well probablyall cousins  i do think kerrs bells and hetheringtons knew each other well csc
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Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« Reply #14 on: Monday 12 January 09 19:19 UTC (UK) »

It was a Bell who first started me off with my research, he I think was a 4th cousin. In Mouswald one of my Kerrs married into another Kerr line. This autimatically multiplied the number of people to research. Regards stoop. Yes I have family in Troqueer.
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