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Re: marriage in reynold 1866?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 13:26 GMT (UK) »



   Hi Jan....

  Thomas D CONSTANT   68 m m nat USA   3027 Burn St

The entry is def. 68 years old

  On the declaration for Naturalization Records there is ...

  Thomas Constant b England  declaration of intent 1871  25 Sept
                                                 oath of Alligiance      1876 11 Sept.

  Doesn't give me any more info.

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tazzie

is that from the 1881 census in America

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 15:01 GMT (UK) »



   Hi Ricky ....

  No the Naturalization Records it does not open to an image on "A"

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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tazzie

Am I right in saying he was 68 years old when he took the declaration of intent Huh Huh

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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 15:38 GMT (UK) »


   No sorry did not make that clear... Jan Found  Thomas D CONSTANT  on the shipping list for Philadelphia that one was 68 years old when he arrived

               So not the missing Thomas .

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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 15:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tazzie

thanks for explaining it Embarrassed Embarrassed
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for checking that Tazzie.
I take it the other shipping entry for plain Thomas Constant (Passenger and Immigration index arrival Philadelphia) was the same fellow?

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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 17:58 GMT (UK) »



   Cannot see him on "a"

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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tazzie

I've PM'd you

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: marriage in reynold 1866?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone, thank you all for your interest, Thomas Constant is a puzzle indeed.
I wonder if one of you could check the 1841/51 censuses again to make sure that I am researching the correct Thomas.
in those censuses he should have parents Samuel and Mary Ann, as well as siblings Robert, John, Samuel, Betsey Tunn, Hannah and others.
I had all the births of the IGI, and it appears Samuel +Mary Ann were the parents of 2 Thomas's as well as 2 Samuel's and 2 Mary's, and we all know how unreliable the IGI is.

Thank you all again for your interest and help.

Best Wishes Bethan
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bethan

In 41/51 Thomas Constant has parents and siblings as you listed. Absolutely no sign of him 61 which is a puzzle given that 1866 death which seems likely to be him.

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bethan
Have to agree with Jan, about the 1841/51 census, just carn't find him on the 1861, but I wonder who the one in America is Huh Huh

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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bethan

There is one possible in 1861

T C Unmarried male 24 labourer no birthplace in the Three Counties Asylum, Stotfold
RG9/998/102 Pg4

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I'm still puzzling over the American Thomas too Huh
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Good find Jan. You may well be right - but it will take the death cert to prove it, and even then it might not. 3 Counties Hospital was in Biggleswade registration district which is where the 1866 death was registered.

"and we all know how unreliable the IGI is"

Sorry Bethan but I beg to disagree - you cannot generalise about the IGI.  There are two types of entry - member submissions are totally unreliable. But extracted entries are reliable and all of the Renhold baptisms (not births) you mention are extracted. Samuel baptised 1831 was buried age 10 on 4 Feb 1841; Thomas baptised in 1827 was buried age 5 on 14 June 1832; and Mary baptised in 1826 was buried age 6 on 5 May 1832. So there's nothing unreliable about these Constant baptisms. And no, I'm not a LDS church member!

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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 22:53 GMT (UK) »
Please accept my apology David, I am afraid I do have a tendency to generalise.
It is quite possible that the Thomas in the asylum is mine as there were quite a few people with mental health problems in that branch of the family(and that is not generalising, it is fact) but it would have been nice to have claimed the other Thomas as he seems to have done more with his life than the majority of my ancestors, who were mostly farm workers, lace makers and miners.

Thank you all again for your help

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