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London Fraud court case.
« on: Tuesday 12 February 08 10:46 GMT (UK) »

Could someone please give me a site to look into a fraud  court case that I think happened about 1903 -1908 in London and if therewas one what papers would it be reported.  Awaiting your replies Wegsgirl
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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 10:59 GMT (UK) »


London gazette.? google for a site.
I think "the times" may not be inline for free these days, at least not outside of a library.

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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 11:08 GMT (UK) »

Most court cases are not reported in the newspapers at all.  If it was a high-profile case, then The Times is your best bet for a report.  However, as Pauline says you will not be able to access the Times Digital Archive unless you either have a relevant library membership or you go to a library which has access. You could request a lookup as some Rootschatters do still have online access.

The Guardian newspaper does have a pay site for its archives which might be worth a look:  www.guardian.co.uk/archive

The London Gazette is/was only used for formal notices of e.g. bankruptcy/company insolvency/partnership dissolution etc. and will not have any narrative reports of court cases.

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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 11:13 GMT (UK) »

Thank you for replying so quickly. I will now follow your suggestions through Wegsgirl
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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 11:40 GMT (UK) »

or post the details here and someone may look up for you

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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 18:04 GMT (UK) »

You can get to the Times archive for free here:
http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/cgi-bin/vlib.sh?enqtype=GALE
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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 18:07 GMT (UK) »

You can get to the Times archive for free here:
http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/cgi-bin/vlib.sh?enqtype=GALE

Not any more, unless you live in Bedfordshire (see recent thread on this at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,282225.0.html)

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London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 22:14 GMT (UK) »

Hmm, well, it still works for me..... maybe they didn't realise that my part of Canada is not in Bedfordshire.  Or maybe they haven't got round to purging me yet.
Let me know what you want me to search for.....
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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 February 08 22:27 GMT (UK) »

Hmm, well, it still works for me..... maybe they didn't realise that my part of Canada is not in Bedfordshire.  Or maybe they haven't got round to purging me yet.
Let me know what you want me to search for.....

Lucky you!  I didn't get the e-mail but can't get past the "changed access" page.  How do you get in?

Modified: actually probably better not to tell me on here as I don't want to get you purged/in trouble - but feel free to PM me if you want.


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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 13:00 GMT (UK) »

Well the case I am after I believe happened around 1908 dealing with a solicitor Frank Ridley of Essex , where a signature was changed.  i have nothing in writing but remember someone telling me  years ago. I may have it all wrong.I think it may have been in the Old Bailey.  I hope some one can look it up for me. Wegsgirl
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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 17:02 GMT (UK) »

Please PM me your email address, I will send article

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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 17:21 GMT (UK) »

Not pertinent to your inquiry but the Old Bailey proceedings are online up to 1835 for free at

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/

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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 13 February 08 17:33 GMT (UK) »

Wegsgirl,
I searched the Times from 1906-1910 but did not find a case involving Frank or Francis Ridley.
Sorry

Anna,
No trick - I can just login the way I always have.
Don't expect it to last....
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Re: London Fraud court case.
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 February 08 05:42 GMT (UK) »

 
Have only just come across this thread, and have never accessed 'Times Digital Library On line' before.

I was thinking what a great resource I appear to have missed, but further investigation proves that a lot of libraries provide this remote access if you belong to them.

Unfortunately my local libraries does not appear to be one of them ( Penketh or Warrington in Cheshire, England), but Cheshire Libraries offer access and others - Central Lancashire, Birmingham, to name but two.
Also  Athens users have access, I might be able to get access through work.

So, I'll be obtaining a Cheshire Library card if my library does not have access, suggest that  others who know what a valuable resource it is check out your nearest county library, wherever that may be.

I can't wait to see what I've been missing.

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