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saintdave
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Could anyone help me please.
I have managed to search my relatives back a couple of generations and have hit a brick wall. It regards my 3rd Great grandfather. His name was William Charles Scott. His sons were Henry and Charles Scott and his wife was Elizabeth. The latter all appear in the 1871 census and it looks as if Elizabeth is a widow by this time. I think her Job is a barm seller. A navvy by the name of Samuel Hilas is a lodger too.
After this, I am having dificulties finding anyone apart from Henry. He is living with his grandparents (though to be honest, I am not too sure they are his grandparents and not his great aunt and uncle) back here in St Helens.
Has anyone any information of;
what happened to Elizabeth Scott after this?
what happened to her other son - Charles?
What happened to William Charles Scott? How did he die?
Anything? Literally anything - I am lost.
PS - William Charles Scott according to my search died in Wolstanton in 1870.
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Tati
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Hi Saintdave and Welcome to RootsChat 
I'm posting the 1871 census here just so we have everyone's details
1871
RG10/2846 8 10
Tunstall, Staffordshire
30 Hall St
Elizabeth Scott, head, wid, 27, Barmseller?, b. Lancashire St Helens
Charles, son, 7, scholar, b. Staffs Kidsgrove
Henry, son, 2, b. Staffs Chatterley?
Samuel Hillas, lodger, 28, Navvy b. Colsall Wood
To know what William died of you'll need to order his death certificate. (£7 from the GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ if you have the reference)
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Ecneps
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
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Would this be Henry in 1891?
RG12/3025 fol. p.12
103 Peasley Lane, St. Helens
Ralph Talbot head m 51 Collier Lancs Newton
Mary " wife m 48 " Sutton Moss
Sarah " dau s 15 General Servant St. Helens
Mary E " " 8 Scholar "
James " son 4 " "
Henry Scott son in law m 23 Collier Staffs n/k
Helen " dau m 21 Lancs St Helens
George E " grandson 2 " "
Leah A Talbot dau in law m 24 Hampshire Portsmouth
Mary E " dau 1 " "
Annie Hill servant 15 General Servant Lancs Bedford Sea
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saintdave
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Hi Ecneps,
thanks to yourself (and everyone else so far) for your help. This is him in 1891. I have his marriage certificate at the side of me and he was living at the time just around the corner from this address (about half a mile from me now).
What baffles me is what happened to his mum (elizabeth) and his brother (charles). I would love to know where his father came from too. Was he born in St Helens, Staffordshire or somewhere totally different. I think he married Elizabeth in Wolstanton in 1860 but am not totally sure.
After he arrived back in St Helens, he lived with his grandparents (though as stated earlier I think these were his great aunt and uncle). He then met the love of his life and married in 1889 in St Helens in a church which I pass several times a week. By 1891 as shown in the census return, he was living with the inlaws but by the 1901 census had become head of his house and had my great grand dad.
From Henry onwards, I think I have things bang on. What is confusing is that I cannot find his brother in 1881 or his mum for that matter. His father is another stumbling block. I cannot find him in the 1861 or 1851 census or the 1841 for that matter. I am quite sure he was born in 1839 +-1 year. This is all I am certain upon.
I am new to all this and would be greatful to any help at all.
Thanks in advance.....
St Dave
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Ecneps
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
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I have also struggled to find them in 1881, thought Elizabeth might have remarried and the boys taken the stepfather's surname.
Perhaps this is the first marriage:
William Charles Scott 1860 Sept Qu Wolstanton 6b 133 with an Elizabeth Hupton on the same page - although they would have been quite young if the correct couple
re the Josiah Stimpson marriage - in 1881 that Elizabeth was 31 and born Wolstanton, so perhaps not the right one - and no Charles or Henry with them
What was William's occupation from Henry's marriage certificate?
Barbara
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
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Just realised (silly me) you have Henry in 1881 with his grandparents William & Lydia Highcock in Parr Lancs, so I suppose Elizabeth's maiden name was Highcock?
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
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William Highcock married Lydia Peel 1846 Dec Qu Prescot 20/787
sorry Willow, duplicating now !
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