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Hello everyone,
wow! This is outstanding. Thank you all already for your help.
The job of the father of Henry Scott on his marriage certificate is sailor. This is a little confusing as in the 1871 census there is no sign of his dad, his mum is said to be a widow. The word deceased does not appear in the father column. I am still at a loss. Maybe Hupton was Elizabeth's name - it is the only one I could find who married a William Charles Scott.
Thanks again for all your help so far...
St Dave
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saintdave
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also was thinking that maybe this could have been William Charles Scott;
death index
jan-feb-mar 1870
wolstanton
staffordshire
vol 6b page 81.
It would explain why Elizabeth was a widow with a two year old child. It would have meant Henry's dad died when Henry was around one year old. Yet, as stated, he is a sailor according to the wedding certificate.
Something doesn't quite add up
Thanks again everyone...
St Dave
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That death shows William as 31, which would probably be right. As to Henry's marriage cert, father isn't always shown as deceased, unfortunately. If William was a sailor, that might explain why we can't find him in earlier census.
You need to get one of the children's birth certs to find Elizabeth's maiden name, and also his marriage to Elizabeth really to find out names of both fathers. You could ask the local registrar to check the details you know to see if they're the right ones before you buy them
Staffordshire bmds are online and you can order the certs from there
http://www.bmsgh.org/staffsbmd/index.html
This site shows that William Charles Scott did marry Elizabeth Hupton and it was at St. Thomas Kidsgrove (where Charles was born- why didn't I look at this earlier??)
Also Charles birth 1864
Barbara
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Thanks for that willow. The thought had not really occured to me. I suppose that could be what it is. Without the death certificate, I cannot really be sure what he died of and that would probably help to ascertain his job too.
Thanks so much for all your help so far....
St Dave
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On a roll now, going to the Lancashire bmd site http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/births.html
there's a birth for HUPTON Elizabeth St Helens 1843
looks right to me, an Elizabeth the right age from St. Helens who married a William Charles Scott in 1860 in Kidsgrove
so I think maybe Elizabeth Highcock is a red herring....
now to find Elizabeth Hupton in census...
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Well St.Dave already seems to think it's a mistake and they were great-uncle & aunt - what do you base that on then St Dave?
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I am still working on this, but;
Elizabeth Hupton's mother was an Elizabeth Peel. I have a feeling that this person is related to the Lydia Peel who married Wm Highcock. Not totally sure of this yet. Will continue to search.
Thanks again....
Dave
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Dave, I'm starting to think you know a lot more than you've been telling us.
Have we been looking up things you already know???
We'd rather you gave as much information as possible to save time and effort
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Hi,
thanks to you all again. I don't know any of this for certain. I have been looking at this branch of the tree for a couple of weeks without coming to any certain conclusions. The Hupton link I only worked out after finding it impossible to marry the Highcock link to William Charles. The idea that the registrar would not have asked if the father was still alive never occured to me.
When studying these things, I eventually found myself 'fogging' (not being able to see clearly anymore) and that is the reason I am asking for your help. I have already had the good fortune of your experience in these matters.
It might be a matter of getting the marriage certificate for this one, unless someone knows another way 
You have already worked out in a couple of searches more than what I have found in the last month.
Thanks again you wonderful people
Dave
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