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Topic: was it his fault ? (naomi mine disaster) (Read 249 times)
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slothbear
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hello
i recently found a relative that went to America in 1905,David Roberts.i have found the passenger list with him on ,looks like my relative David Roberts was traveling with a john Jones.from wrexham.i dont no if there was family out there before and he could of been going to stop with them?
it also says he was marryed but there was no wifes name on the list i think.
what i do no is that he died in 1907 on DEC 1 1907 in the Naomi mine disaster in which 34 people died
from the newspapers i found that he was a fire boss and was one of the last to be found.
i just want to no as much as i can about David,like did he have children in America,did he go and live with relatives when he first arrived in America etc
and was the disaster his fault? ?
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LissaM
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Hello slothbear, you may have to come up with a few more details on your David Roberts in order to find his surviving family such as birth date/age, siblings, family names -- which might lead to any children he might have had or family in the area??
In 1910, There are 99 citizens named w/ surname Roberts in Fayette Co., PA Only the following were b. in Wales or England
John Roberts b. 1849 in Wales w/ Wife Elizabeth b. 1855 in England living in Brownsville, Fayette, PA John's Year of Immigration: 1870 Occupation: Coal Miner
Household Members:
John Wilson 24 b. PA Occupation: Brakeman on the Railroad
Blanch E Wilson 19
Mildred E Wilson 1
John C Wilson 1/12
William Jones 58 b. England Widow Immigration: 1881 Coal Miner
Lizzie Jones 13 b. PA
1910: Dunbar, Fayette, Pennsylvania
John Roberts Age 23 Birth Year: abt 1887 Birthplace: Wales Father/Mother's Birth Place: Wales Marital Status: Single Occupation: Cutter in a Stone Quarry No immigration date indicated
Boarder in the household of:
Harry E Williams 38 b. Wales also a Cutter @ the Stone Quarry No immigration Date indicated.
Minnie Williams 33 b. PA
Evan Williams 15 b. PA
Paul Williams 13 b. PA
In 1910 there are 27 John Jones in Fayette Co., PA. Here are the only 2 listed as born in Wales or England.
1910: Dunbar, Fayette, Pennsylvania
John R Jones Age 46 Birth Year: abt 1864 Birthplace: Wales Father/Mother's Birth Place: Wales Occupation: a cutter in a Stone Quarry Naturalized but no Immigration dated indicated
Margret Jones 36 b. PA
Clayton Jones 14 b. PA
1910: North Union, Fayette, Pennsylvania
John Jones [John Johes] Age 31 Birth Year: abt 1879 Birthplace: England Father/Mother's Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1904 No Occupation
Minnie Jones 29 b. Japan Servant w/ a private family
Dorothy Jones 3 b. PA
Ailly Jones 2 B. PA
John Jones 6 mos. b. PA
Hope something helpful here 
lissa
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LissaM
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Did your David have a brother George also killed in the Naomi explosion??
http://genforum.genealogy.com/pa/cambria/messages/1023.html
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/PAWESTMO/2007-12/1197646162
and at this site:
http://patheoldminer.rootsweb.com/faynaomi1.html
Roberts, David
(Welsh Miner, Fire Boss ca.1907, Naomi Mine, Fayette Co., PA, Age 39 or Age 45, single.);
(Immigrated from Denbighshire north east Wales ca.1894.);
(Killed. Killed in an explosion of firedamp and coal dust, in the Naomi Mine, Dec. 1, 1907.);
(Naomi Mine Disaster of Dec. 1, 1907.)
No George Roberts listed but there was an American Charles Roberts.
There is a considerable amount of information on-line regarding this mine disaster.
lissa
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slothbear
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hello lissam
the first post you sent me was a bit to late for the david roberts i was looking for as
he died in 1907,
is there any chance you could do an early search for the same place.
and could you do a search for Mount Carmel PEN,this is where i belive david roberts was going ,according to the passenger list.
it also said he was joining up with an antie and uncle,at this place.
if i could get any information out of this that would be amazing for me
thank you very much for your help,and im sorry if ive repeated myself on other posts
ian roberts
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LissaM
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Hello Ian, a much nicer name than "slothbear", by the way
I wasn't looking for your David Roberts as he died in 1907 in the mining accident and you said he traveled to America in 1905 therefore he won't be showing in the 1900 nor the 1910 census listings.
You mentioned he possibly had other relatives living in the area he was going to and had travelled with a John Jones. So possibles for those connections was what I posted.
From the Naomi mine information, he was single so don't think we will be finding a widowed wife and off spring --- and as you have seen, there are likely to be 300+ widows of miners in 1907 in this area!
Do you have names/ birth dates for the Aunt and Uncle in Mount Camel, PA?? There are MANY Welsh miners with these very common names in these areas. Without your David available to make an association or more information, very difficult to pick them out.
Regards,
lissa
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