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ricky1
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Hi Barbara
Are you sure Mary was married before 
as there is a Mary Bird living in Souldrop on the 1841 census about the right age
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Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1841
William Bird 50 ag lab born in county
Mary " 30 "
John " 20 "
Thomas " 15 "
Mary " 14 "
Benjamin " 11 "
Jane " 2 "
George " 10 months "
living in Souldrop, Beds
H0107/ 8/15
folio 9
page 12
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Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1851
She is a servant
Mary Bird serv u/m 23 house servant Beds Souldrop
H0107/ 1743
folio 249
page 3
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tazzie
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Barbara....
Instead of Foskett how about Fossey....
I can see a Daniel Bird as a Grandson in Amptill
RG9/1000 f 23 p40
Head is Thomas Fossey
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Liscoe -all Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks. Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London Rewallin/Underwood -Devon Casbolt-London/Cambridge Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Nah....I cannot see a marriage of Fossey to Bird being hopeful I guess
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Liscoe -all Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks. Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London Rewallin/Underwood -Devon Casbolt-London/Cambridge Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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bedfordshire boy
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There are two Daniel Birds who married Elizabeths - Burgess in Souldrop in 1851 and Fossey in Ampthill in 1853. I think the Ampthill family is a red herring
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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tazzie
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Yes I can see they have a daughter Mary A but she is only b 1838...so too late for the missing Mary .
I can see who I think is Francis 1841 then nothing until 1871 the name is open to many mis-transcriptions I bet ,
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Liscoe -all Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks. Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London Rewallin/Underwood -Devon Casbolt-London/Cambridge Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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johnP-bedford
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Mary Zipfel; death index Huddersfield Oct/Dec 1897 vol 9a page 248, age 63
1891 census Huddersfield down as Mary CLOCKHILL 
RG12/3566; Folio 87; Page 13
Mary Zipfel, wife, age 60 widow, born Bedford
Annie M Zipfel, daughter,age 21, born Huddersfield ; worsted worker
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Yes thanks, I should have said, I followed that Daniel Bird b. Ampthill through the census, and he's in the 1881 Luton at the same time as 'my' Daniel is in Huddersfield
And yes, Francis Zipfel is a little mystery all on his own, born Norwich c.1828, think I've got him in East Dereham Norfolk in 1841 aged 10 staying in an inn, then nothing til he turns up in Huddersfield in 1871 as a hawker, his family were all clockmakers so I don't know why he's gone awol except that his mother died in 1838. And yes, the name is open to very many mistranscriptions, Tipple, Lipfel, you name it.... this last query has come about because I amended Griffiths to Zipfell on ancestry's 1881 index and a family member has got in touch with me through ancestry to find out more about about Mary & Daniel
Oh thanks very much John, that's a brilliant variation to add to my list, (Clockhill) -- well done for the death reg and the 1891, you're a star!
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Census and bmd information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.scotlandspeople.gov.ukNorfolk - Ebbs Whiterod Zipfell Lincs & Yorks - Sivills Predgen Sweden - Jönsson Cronberg Andersson Yorks - Spence Hide Hird Durham - Dalkin Selby Renwick Somerset - Keen Hitchins |
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