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jsykes
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The Wigglesworth family from Cawthorne was well recorded, in that there is a tombstone there, at All Saints Church of John, b.1794 – d. 1870. He would have been the father of James b.1817. There is also the family tomb of John’s father, also named James, b.ca.1754 – d.1826. Also entombed with him are his two wives, both named Mary, both of whom he outlived. James married his first wife, Mary Hinchcliffe of Elmhirst in 1784 and she bore him six children; John b.1794 was the youngest child.
Apparently All Saints has records dating back to 1653.
My question is: where and when was James (ca.1754) born? Records of his 1784 marriage (presumably at Elmhirst) or of his baptism might provide the answer.
I suspect that he might be the first recorded generation of Wigglesworths in the vicinity of Cawthorne, however. According to the History of Cawthorne, the earliest mention of the Wigglesworth family name in that area occurs about 1744; later, in the decade of the 1790’s, Wigglesworth was mentioned again as being a farmer, as several of the sons were also in their family’s occupation.
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jsykes
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After considerable delay of months waiting for a film to arrive, I was able to check the available records that the LDS has for Cawthorne. I found the marriage of James Wigglesworth to Mary Hinchcliffe on Dec. 27, 1784. Unfortunately, there is no other information recorded.
Once again, I have encountered a brick wall in that I have no way of verifying where James was born; but apparently it was not in Cawthorne, as I could not find his birth record, nor any mention of any other Wigglesworths before his marriage.
I also checked the IGI and found what is very likely to be his birth record in Manchester Cathedral, April 4, 1754. However, without a more detailed record from Cawthorne that might affirm Manchester as his birthplace, there is no proof that this is the same man.
Would anyone be willing to do a lookup at All Saints, Cawthorne to see whether their marriage records might contain more information than I was able to access? Without it I'm stuck.  
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Jackie464
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Hi - I have the PR for Cawthorne for 1654 to 1812 and found the following;
WIGGLESWORTH baptisms – all father James, all on Cawthorne Parish Records
10 Feb 1788 William
17-23 Oct 1790 James (day not clear but the ones before and after are 17 and 23)
30 May 1790 Ann
21 Apr 1784 John
? Oct 1797 Jonathan
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27 Dec 1751 Sarah Wrigglesworth dau of Thos
Marriage at Cawthorne;
27 Dec 1784 James Wigglesworth mar Mary Hinchcliffe. James of Silkston, Mary of this parish. By Banns
10 Jul 1809 William Batty mar Ann Wigglesworth. Wm of Penistone, Ann of this parish. By banns.
*William I know was a butcher. Benjamin – son of John (farmer) baptised above mar Elizabeth Winter at Darfield 18 Feb 1844. Elizabeth was one of my ancestors.
Burials at Cawthorne:
03 Jul 1804 Mary Wigglesworth wife of James, farmer.
There are no other records for Wigglesworth of any spelling on either Cawthorne, Silkstone 1558-1784 or Darfield 1598 1850 parish records.
As it clearly says on his marriage record that James is of Silkstone I double checked - but there are no records. Hope this helps though - Jackie
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jsykes
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Hi - I have the PR for Cawthorne for 1654 to 1812 and found the following;
WIGGLESWORTH baptisms – all father James, all on Cawthorne Parish Records
10 Feb 1788 William
17-23 Oct 1790 James (day not clear but the ones before and after are 17 and 23)
30 May 1790 Ann
21 Apr 1784 John
? Oct 1797 Jonathan
Also:
27 Dec 1751 Sarah Wrigglesworth dau of Thos
Marriage at Cawthorne;
27 Dec 1784 James Wigglesworth mar Mary Hinchcliffe. James of Silkston, Mary of this parish. By Banns
10 Jul 1809 William Batty mar Ann Wigglesworth. Wm of Penistone, Ann of this parish. By banns.
*William I know was a butcher. Benjamin – son of John (farmer) baptised above mar Elizabeth Winter at Darfield 18 Feb 1844. Elizabeth was one of my ancestors.
Burials at Cawthorne:
03 Jul 1804 Mary Wigglesworth wife of James, farmer.
There are no other records for Wigglesworth of any spelling on either Cawthorne, Silkstone 1558-1784 or Darfield 1598 1850 parish records.
As it clearly says on his marriage record that James is of Silkstone I double checked - but there are no records. Hope this helps though - Jackie
Hi Jackie,
Thank you for replying. However, there are some points you mention that leave me totally confused.
You mention: "Also: 27 Dec 1751 Sarah Wrigglesworth dau of Thos"
I am assuming this a birth record. How could she appear on the scene with no other record of any other Wigglesworth family member that early in the region?
Later you say: *William I know was a butcher."
Which William? William Wigglesworth or William Batty?
"Benjamin – son of John (farmer) baptised above mar Elizabeth Winter at Darfield 18 Feb 1844. Elizabeth was one of my ancestors."
You made no previous mention of a Benjamin; my records do not show Benjamin as being a son of John.
What I do have is this: William Wigglesworth b. 1788 married Eliza Walker in 1811 and had these children: Joseph b. 1815, Benjamin b. 1815, Mary b. 1818, and Eliza b. 1818
The occupations I have (from much later census records) for William W. are those of being a laborer, and later a limeburner. The Hinchcliffe side of the family was known to have been established in the butchering trade.
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Jackie464
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Hi - Sorry you don't find it clear;
As Sarah 1751 appears under my heading of Cawthorne baptisms - then clearly that is what the entry is.
As to the note I made for William and Benjamin, they come under the record for William Batty so are BATTY. I was trying to illustrate why I knew that William Batty as a butcher.
What I couldn't understand is that there seems to be clear records of Wigglesworth family in the All Saints Cawthorne churchyard, but few records in the Parish Records. I can only assume that there are records missing or lost. I am sure I had WINTER family in Cawthorne pre 1750 ish - there are a few among the records but I am sure there are some missing. As far as I know the copy I have is a full copy of the exisiting records for Cawthorne for 1654-1812.
Sorry I seem to have confused more than helped - Jackie
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jsykes
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Hi Jackie,
I'm sorry I didn't find it clear, but some details still don't add up.
As Sarah 1751 appears under my heading of Cawthorne baptisms - then clearly that is what the entry is.
OK, but as I mentioned, that Sarah and her father Thomas are strays - there are no other records tying them to the rest of this family. (I believe Thomas was the brother of James, but so far I can't prove it.)
As to the note I made for William and Benjamin, they come under the record for William Batty so are BATTY. I was trying to illustrate why I knew that William Batty as a butcher.
OK, then you are describing the Batty family.
But I still don't understand this quote: Benjamin – son of John (farmer) baptised above mar Elizabeth Winter at Darfield 18 Feb 1844. Elizabeth was one of my ancestors.
How could Benjamin be a son of "John (farmer) baptized above? The James Wigglesworth family had an eldest John b. 1784 who presumably died in childhood. That is why they gave the name John once again, to their later son born in 1794. That John did not have any child named Benjamin. Of this I am certain and can cite the whole family, as that is my line.
If you are a descendant of a Benjamin Wigglesworth, he is not in John's line. As I noted previously, the Benjamin here was a son of William. John was William's brother, so John would be Benjamin's uncle, not his father.
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AP Wigglesworth
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Hi, I have traced James Wigglesworth ancestors and got back to the 1600's but they are unproven if you like I can let you have my theoryof the family
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jsykes
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I am very interested in hearing your theory. I too have some leads that are probable, but not provable. Please tell me more and we'll compare notes. 
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AP Wigglesworth
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Hi,
There is a James Wrigglesworth c at Wakefield 12th Jan 1754
Parents Thomas b 1723 and Mother Betty Armitage m Ecclesfield 1751,
there is also a son William b 1756 Wakefield.
When Thomas and Betty got married it was then spelt Wigglesworth and also after Mary Hinchcliffe died James married again to a Mary Armitage.
We are part of WIGGS group and are researching all Wigglesworth families, we have started doing DNA tests and have got some unusual connections. If you give me your e-mail address I can let you have some more info.
Regards Anne.
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Hi Conrad If you get in touch with me on my e-mail address anne.wigglesworth@btinternet.com I will send you where I have got to with the tree for Cawthorne.
Regards Anne Wigglesworth
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