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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
No I'm not going to embark on an exercise concerning Homer Simpson and his wife, Marge, much though I'd like to! What I'm going to do is slot in another surname to the ones that I have entered on RootsChat, and by doing so, I'm showing the important connections that this surname creates. It's this "linking" exercise that "Beans" is grappling with, and as she's clearly discovering, it does tend to come out in the wash eventually. (I'm only pulling your leg, Beans! I don't mind in the least helping people out, since it's better than "vegetating" in an armchair all day and every day!
Let me take all researchers back in time to the years around 1650 when John Sympson (Simpson) and Marjory Duthow were born in that pretty little village of Culross. John married Marjorie on the 28th of June, 1674.
The couple had the following children, (at least some of them!):
Bessie Symson (Simson) christened 27th July, 1679 at Culross.
Christian Simson (simpson) christened 10th April, 1681 at Culross
George Sympson (Simpson) born 25th August, 1685 at Culross.
In my next posting, I will give details of George Sympson (Simpson), but would urge other researchers to find out for themselves what happened to his sisters, Bessie and Christian.
Kind regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
To continue with our examination of the Simpson family from where I left off on my previous posting. we saw that George Sympson (Simpson) was born on 25th August, 1685 to John Sympson (Simpson) and Marjory Duthow.
George married an Anna (or Anne) Kerr at Dunfermline, Fife on the 6th of April, 1716. They had the following children (or at least some of them!):
Margaret Symson (Simpson) born 7th September, 1717 at Dunfermline
Katharine Symson (Simpson) born 3rd August, 1719 at Dunfermline
William Symson (Simpson) born 29th May, 1721 at Dunfermline.
On my next posting I will continue with William Symson (Simpson), and see how this member of the family connects with another family that is well-known to researchers on RootsChat.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
To complete this exercise on the Simpsons for the time being, we will now take a look at William Symson (Simpson), the son of George Symson (Simpson) and Anna (Anne) Kerr.
William Sympson (Simpson) married Janet Campell, who had been born on the 21st November, 1715 at Dunfermline. The marriage took place about 1743. They had the following children, (or at least some of them!):
Margaret Simpson born 31st October, 1745 at Dunfermline.
Margaret Simpson born 6th November, 1746 at Craigluscar, Dunfermline.
William Simpson born 17th March, 1748 at Dunfermline.
Margaret Simpson born 29th January, 1750 at Dunfermline.
I can only assume that the first two Margaret's died in their infancy, before the year 1748. This would mean that it was the Margaret Simpson who was born on 29th January, 1750 that married William Izatt at Culross on 21st Agust 1778 although some records give the birth date of Margaret born on 31st October, 1745!
So it was that Margaret Simpson became the mother of Elizabeth (Betty) Izatt who married John Strang in Dunfermline on the 16th November, 1804.
Although she'll probably chastise me for saying so, "There you go, "Beans", I told you that things will come out in the wash!"
Kind regards,
Tom.
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TunjiLees
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Do you know who Katherine Sympson married?
My ancestor William Scot married a Katherine Simpson in 1744 Leuchars. The first child I can find for them was born in 1750 which is probably not the firstborn, so I can't use the naming technique in this instance. It's the complete other side of Fife, but could there be a connection?
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tommacgregor
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Hello "TunjiLees",
It's nice to hear from you again. I have done a very quick scan through my own files and managed to scrape together the following information.
My records state that Katharine Simpson was born on 3rd August, 1719 at Dunfermline, which is in the western part of Fife, quite a distance from Leuchars which is to the north-east. I see her as marrying William Scot on the 8th October, 1748 - not 1744, at Leuchars. If I remember correctly, that would have come under the diocese of St Andrews, (not all that far from Leuchars - just ask the lads from R.A.F. Leuchars who spend all their pennies at St Andrews during their off-duty time!).
I noted a few other Katherine Simpson marriages but ruled them out for various reasons. Examples: a Katherine marrying John Philp on 9th June, 1727 - an 8 year-old bride? A Katharine marrying a John Honeyman on 13th June, 1733 - a 14 year-old bride? There are a couple or so tht you may want to take a look at marriages of a Katherine Simpson to a John Patrick in November, 1749 at Largo in Fife and another one to an Andrew Inglis. Do a parent/children rundown on them to see if any of the children match up with what you've got!
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello again, "TunjiLees",
It's only 7.15 in the morning here in Melbourne so my breakfast isn't quite ready yet! I had another quick look at what I've got and saw that Katharine and Williams marriage was in October, 1848 and their daughter, Helen's birth was on the 26th August, 1750 at Leuchars. Maybe they weren't quite as fast workers as some!
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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TunjiLees
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Hi Tom,
Yes sorry, they married in 1748 not 1744. Still I can only see two children for them... Oh well.
I suppose the Katharin Simson born 21 Sep 1721 Leuchars (to Thomas Simson/Margt Henderson) is more likely to be my ancestor's husband, I knew it was unlikely but I just thought you might have might a connection.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by saying I should check the other marriages of Katharine Simpson? I know the Katherine who married William Scot to be my ancestor, why should I check other marriages?
Regards
-Tunji Lees
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tommacgregor
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Hello TunjiLees,
I would think that the other child you mentioned was Walter Scot, who, I believe was born around 1755? I think that you misunderstand me about the other Katharine Simpsons. When I do searches for my ancestors in Fife, I usually like to know where they "migrated" from in Fife - maybe from around Dunfermline, Torryburn, Culross or Abbotshall near Kirkcaldy. Although it's a painstaking task, I usually go to IGI for those locations and do a search under the Surname that I'm looking for. It's surprising what comes up!
Happy hunting,
Tom.
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TunjiLees
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Hi Tom,
Thanks for your advice. I will go through all the Katherine Simpsons from Fife of around that time and see if I can find where they ended up.
-Tunji Lees
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tommacgregor
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Hello Again "TunjiLees",
I'm delighted to be of some assistance. It may pay you to look at The Burt History on the Fife Board, which will give you some indication of the magnitude of the task. Time and time again, I come across "curious" transcriptions, misspellings, erroneous information, etc., - all the things that researchers hate!
You will see, though, that I have managed to overcome some of the problems - not all of them. I'm still working on them, but many people out there are beginning to see where their Fife ancestors originated from, and how time and time again they intermingle with members of my own family.
I look forward to giving you as much assistance as I possibly can.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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BoBo
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Hi Tom
This is just a shot in the dark, but I too have a Simpson in my family tree. The only reason I am contacting you, apart from sheer curosity and the need to know - you know the feeling!- is that in one of your messages you refered to a William Simpson. This name keeps on cropping up in my tree too!
Martha Simpson married Alexander Dunn on the 19th June 1825 in Montrose, Angus. As far as I can tell she was born on 3rd August 1803 in Montrose. I know of 4 children from that marriage and I would assume there were more. Any information regarding Martha's family I don't have. One of her sons was called William Simpson Dunn and the name seems to keep on appearing in future generations.
Can you shed any light? Does this name appear in your research?
Many thanks
BoBo
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UK - Dunn, Lands, Knight, Wickes, Hawkins, Rumbelow, Low & Jolly
Malta - Camilleri, Aguis Delicata, Sciberras & Navarro
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tommacgregor
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Hello BoBo,
Many thanks for your query, and it's nice to hear of your interest in the Simpson/Dunn families.
My posting referred to the Simpson's of the Fife area simply because they appear here and there in my own Family Tree. However, I am aware of several connections to individuals from such places as Arbroath, Dundee and Montrose.
I don't know what tools you have to assist you in your research, ScotlandsPeople, Ancestry, LDS, or whatever. If you want to do a free search, then there would be nothing wrong in going on to familysearch.org and selecting Scotland, then Angus and inserting the name Simpson and then Dunn. That will give you a pretty good idea of of various individuals living in specific area of Angus at different times. You will see from the dates shown, various members of the same family. I tend to jot that information down and then go onto the next step. Insert the names of those individuals onto familyseach - advanced, and have a look at either birth/christenings or marriages. When you look for an individuals birth details, if there is a record on the IGI, you will be given details of the date of birth, place of birth, and usually who the parents were. If you go to marriages, the LDS record will show you the marriage date and the name of the spouse.
Just because that's what I do, doesn't mean that it's the best way or the quickest way, but it has served me quite well over quite a long time! I tend to end up with quite a bit of information, and so I insert it onto a file that I created on MicroSoft Word. All those individuals that are part of my extended family are inserted in strict date order and then I can see some quite important data start to appear. Pretty crude by some standards, but I went on to create a far more sophisticated file!
Try it out and see whether or not it assists you as much as it does me.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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sancti
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Bobo
These christening records are from the OPR's on SP
05/03/1833 DUNN WILLIAM SIMPSON born to ALEXANDER DUNN and MARTHA SIMPSON at Montrose /ANGUS
23/01/1835 DUNN HENRY GEORGE born to ALEXANDER DUNN and MARTHA SIMPSON at Montrose /ANGUS
18/06/1837 DUNN CHARLES JAMES born to ALEXANDER DUNN and MARTHA SIMPSON at Montrose /ANGUS
31/03/1839 DUNN MARTHA ANN born to ALEXANDER DUNN and MARTHA SIMPSON at Montrose /ANGUS
Also the marriage record
19/06/1825 DUNN ALEXANDER married MARTHA SIMPSON at Montrose /ANGUS
A bit of a gap after the marriage but as these are christening records, maybe they waited until the children were a certain age before having them christened
Have you checked the death records/census records to try and confirm ages
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sancti
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Bobo
Here is a possible death record for Martha which should tell you her parents and confirm husbands name if you view it on SP
1877 DUNN MARTHA Female 75yrs died at MONTROSE /ANGUS
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