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Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« on: Sunday 17 February 08 19:56 GMT (UK) »

Hi there,

These two were married in Peterculter, Aberdeen, Scotland on 1 November 1829.

Their daughter Mary Farquharson was married in Banchory Devenick, Kincardine,  on 19 December 1865 to William Jamieson.  Penny was listed as deceased at that time.  I have also seen Penny as Penelope on the familysearch site.  Can anyone add any details for these folk?

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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 February 08 20:47 GMT (UK) »

Not sure what you are looking for, but this is them on the 1841 census:

@ Rubislaw Farm, Old Machar, Aberdeenshire, all born Aberdeenshire:

Ander (sic) Farquharson, 30, Agt Lab
Penelopie (sic) ", 30
Jean, 10
George, 7
Margaret, 5
Mary, 2.

And these are other children born to Andrew and Penelope:

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Struggling to find them on the 51 and 61 at the moment, but will keep looking.

There's a death for an Andrew Farquharson in Old Machar 1867, age 58  168/02 0176

But he could be the one one the 1861 in Old Machar with a wife Ellen.  Maybe Penelope died young and he remarried? Can't find a death so far for Penelope post 1855, so she may have died before then.

Cheers

Ellen.
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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 February 08 20:52 GMT (UK) »

Hello Kiwi Girl

You request is slightly vague.  If you were  more specific, I'm sure you'd get a good response.  :O)

Had a look on the IGI as I'm sure you have,

and find that children born to Andrew Farquharson and Penelope/Nopley/Molipha Leslie were:

Jean Farquharson, b.07 Oct 1829 , ch.  09 Nov 1829 peterculter, Aberdeen.

Isabel Stuart Farquharson b. ch.  27 May 1832, Old Machar, Aberdeen.

George Farquharson,  b.  06 May 1834  ch.01 Jun 1834, Old Machar, Aberdeen.

Margaret Farquharson b.  04 May 1836, Old Machar, Aberdeen.

Mary Farquharson  b.  10 Nov  1832, Old Machar, Aberdeen.

Elizabeth Farquharson  b.04 Apr 1842   Old Machar, Aberdeen.

The same George and Isabel have conflicting christening dates although they are 'extracted records.

Off to check the 1841 census records now   :O)  No I'm not - got beaten to it   :O)

Regards,  Steve   :O)
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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 February 08 20:59 GMT (UK) »

Hiya again (and Steve)

OK, I'm beginning to think that my original theory re Penelope dying young is correct.

There is a marraige on IGI of Andrew Farquharson to Helen Nicol 18 May 1849 @ Old Machar.

on the 1851 there is a horribly transcribed entry on ancestry:

@ Shnegton Skene Road, Old Machar, Aberdeenshire

Andrew Carquhar, 40, Ag Lab  (forgot to look at places of birth, will go back for them)
Helen  ", 40, wife
Margaret ", 17 Daughter
Elizabeth, ", 10, Daughter

The two girls are close enough in age to be the children of Andrew and Penny above.

Cheers

Ellen.
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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 February 08 21:02 GMT (UK) »

Birthplaces on the 1851 are:

Andrew - Ancestry has it as Peterboster !!!  so its almost certainly Peterculter, which fits with the Penny theory.
Helen, Margaret and Elizabeth all showing as Aberdeen.

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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 February 08 21:07 GMT (UK) »

On the 1861:

@ Cuparstone Ruth's Tents House (!), Old Machar, aberdeenshire

Andrew Farquharson, 53, b. Peterculter, Agrel Labourer
Ellen Farquharson, 52,
and two grandchildren
George Allan, 6, b. Nether Banchory
Janet McIntyre, 5 b. Old Machar

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Ellen
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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 February 08 21:10 GMT (UK) »

Hello Ellen / Kiwi Girl,

Has anyone been to the link below or know what it means ??  Refers to the family.....


www.designlabs.co.uk/tree/AndrewAndPenelpyLesChildren.txt

Regards,   Steve   :O)

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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 February 08 21:15 GMT (UK) »

Nice one Steve - at least it confirms my theory was correct!

Kiwi girl - let us know exactly what info you're looking for, and what you have already so we can help better.

eg: do you have William and Mary Jamieson on the 1871? I can't find them easily at first look. What were William's age and occupation at marraige?

What else do you need help with?

Cheers

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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 February 08 00:21 GMT (UK) »

Wow!  Shocked

I am overwhelmed at the response so far!

I'd ground to a halt with this line, now I have twigs galore!

I'd gone back as far as Penny & Andrew in a direct line back through their daughter Mary I had no date of birth for her and found some information on family search a bit confusing.  I'd seen posts on my other line of family that were, at best wishful thinking Wink  So I didn't know quite where to head.

My Mother was a Jamieson, born and bred here in New Zealand.  Until last year I didn't even know her Grandfather's name - nor did she.

I've managed to go back to Mary's Husband's parents and Mary's parents and there I drew a blank.

All your wonderful information has given me renewed hope.  I guess what I want is a bit vague.  I want to go back as far as I can, but I love to include siblings and occupations and residences - just makes the whole thing come alive!

Thank you all so much!  I am quite speechless with gratitude,  which, if you knew me, is a rare as a Blue Moon Wink

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

Riwia Fox
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WILLIAM JAMIESON - Milk Dairyman b. Abt. 1869 in Partlethen, Kincardineshire
Don't know when he died, but he married:-

MARY URQUHART b. Abt. 1875 in Newdeer, Aberdeenshire d. Abt. 1947 in Dunedin, New Zealand.

They were married on 27 March 1897 at Church of Scotland, Brae-of-Findon, Hill of Findon, Portlethan, Banchory, Devenick, Kincardineshire.
When my Grandfather, their son, was born they were living in Morningside in Edinburgh.

William's parents were William Jamieson* & Mary Farquharson - as my previous posts. 

Mary Urquhart's parents were:-

GEORGE URQUHART b. 1842 in Tyrie, Aberdeen I don't know where or when he died.  On 18 June 1864 in King Edward, Aberdeen he married;

JESSIE ALLAN b. 1843 in King Edward, Aberdeen

George's parents were:-

JAMES URQUHART b.? d before 1864

CATHERINE GLASS b.? d.?

They were married on 22 December 1831 in New Deer, Aberdeen

Jessie's parents were:-

ALEXANDER ALLAN b.? d. before 1864

HELEN HEPBURN b.Abt. June 1827

They married on 27 November 1842 at King Edward, Aberdeen

I'm not sure, but I think Helen's parents are:-

JAMES HEPBURN b. 1794 in Aberdeenshire

MARY don't know her maiden name b. 1796 in Aberdour, Aberdeenshire



* William's father was also a William Jamieson

WILLIAM JAMISON b. 1810 d. 30 December 1889 buried in Upperton, Findon, Kincardine. He married;

JANE SUTHERLAND b. 1816 d. 1 January 1883.  She may share the same plot as her husband as she is on his headstone

That's all I have - does that help or hinder?  Huh

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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 February 08 08:45 GMT (UK) »

Hi Riwia

Glad to be of some help.

Lets start by tying off what we have on the Farquharsons so far:

To get further you're going to have to invest in some credits on Scotlandspeople!

I'd suggest that the death I mentioned above is likely to be the correct one for Andrew Farquharson
(1867, age 58, Old Machar  Ref 168/02 0176). that should give you his parents and allow you to go back another generation on that side.

If you're keen on spending money, you could look at the OPR entries for his marraiges 1 Nov 1829 to Penelope Leslie and 18 May 1849 to Helen/Ellen Nicol - but be aware that you are unlikely to get any further information from them.

Since Penny looks to have died between April 1842, when young Elizabeth was born, and May 1849, when Andrew remarried, which is before registration came into force in 1855, you may struggle to get any further with her. I'll check the Aberdeenshire MIs in a mo and see if there is anything online.

Here are William Jamieson and Mary (Farquharson) in 1871, with young William, your great grandad:

@ Uppertown, Banchory Devenick, Portlethen, Kincardineshire

William Jamieson, 28, b. Banchory Devk, Farm Servant
Mary Jamieson, 28, b. Old Machar, wife
Jane Jamieson, 4, b. Banchory Devk
William Jamieson, 2, b. Banchory Devk

Off to hae a root around for the others now.

Cheers

Ellen.
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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 February 08 17:18 GMT (UK) »

Back from work and off again!

On the Urquhart side now, starting with Mary Urquhart's father, George.

Here is his birth and that of his siblings to James Urquhart and Catherine Glass from the IGI:

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On the 1861 census, he is already away from home working, with his older brother James, at:

Skellybogs, New Deer, Aberdeenshire.  They are both farm servants to a family of Forbes.

George, 17, b. Tyrie and James, 21, b. Strichen.

Will go now and try to find them/their parents on 1851/1841.

cheers

Ellen.
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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 February 08 18:03 GMT (UK) »

Ok, on 1851 census, Catherine is alone (I'm assuming widowed as she's head of the household, but Ancestry doesn't give marital status) age 43, born New Deer, Aberdeenshire, with daughter Jessie, 18, b. Strichen (whose birth was not showing on IGI), son George, 8, and her older sister Elizabeth Glass, 58, b. Strichen. Catherine's occupation is given as Stocking Knitter and Ag Lab.

Looks like she moved in with her sister when she lost her husband, as Elizabeth Glass was at the same address in 1841.

Moving back to 1841 - this is a cracker, no wonder it took me ages to find them. They are enumerated as Orchard !!  I guess if you say Urquhart and Orchard quickly enough with an Aberdeenshire accent they could almost be mistaken for each other  Roll Eyes  But it really is them.
The boys have been enumerated with the surname Fowlie. I had to go and look at the image on SP eventually to convince myself I had the right family. It looks as though William has Fowlie down as a middle name, and this has then been continued down to his two young brothers. Honestly, they don't make life easy do they  Roll Eyes

Anyway here they are at New Pitsligo High Street, Tyrie, Aberdeenshire:

James Orchard, 35yrs, Labourer, b. Aberdeenshire
Catherine Orchard, 34 yrs, b. Aberdeenshire
Jannet (commonly interchangeable name with Jessie) ", 8yrs, all children b. Aberdeenshire
William Fowlie ", 6 yrs
James ", 3 yrs
Charles ", 2 yrs

So - James Urquhart, b. c 1806 died sometime between 1841 and 1851.
Catherine Glass b. c 1807 was still alive 1851. Haven't yet found her on 1861, will try now. You should be able to find a death for her on SP if she lived past 1855, and get back another generation with her parents. I'll check the IGI first for her and her sister's births.

All the best.

Ellen.
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 February 08 18:29 GMT (UK) »

Yes - here are Catherine and Eliabeth and siblings births from IGI to parents William Glass and Jan(n)et Smith
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William Glass and Janet Smith were married 22 Oct 1788 @ Old Deer, aberdeenshire.  From these dates it looks as though there may be some unregistered children.

Off to have dinner now.  Hope you have enough to be going on with.

Cheers

Ellen.
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Re: Andrew FARQUHARSON & Penny LESLIE
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 February 08 18:56 GMT (UK) »

Hi there,

THANK YOU!  Wow, that's amazing.  You are such a wiz, I am completely in awe!

I'm chugging along nicely now, mostly due to you and the super helpful folk on this site.

Thank you so much for spending your time and energy helping me, I really do appreciate it.

Cheers,

Riwia
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« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 February 08 20:21 GMT (UK) »

You're more than welcome.

I'll let you carry on yourself for now, as I know that more than half the enjoyment in all of this is finding them for yourself - but if you're stuck and want any more help, just holler!

Cheers

Ellen.
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