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Muffin41
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I am seeking the marriage year for Martha Bunting´s marriage to John Howe.
I have not found a direct match on freebmd, but the following.
Marriage for Martha Bunting 2q 1839 Hayfield 19 444
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Marriage for John Howe 2q 1839 Hayfield&C 19 449
Could this be the match  
They had a daughter Martha Howe born about 1861, and a son John Howe born about 1862.
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If you click on the number relating to John's marriage, it brings up the list of possible spouses, and there is no Martha Bunting.
Likewise clicking on the number relating to Martha's marriage does not bring up a John Howe.
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Ok 
thank you for looking, I shall see if I can find out more
I know that they lived in Chesterfield in 1861.
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what is the census reference for 1861.
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Hi
The reference is RG9 2540 f 87 p 48
I have now the following details:
John Goodwin Howe was born in Middleton by Youlgeave, Derbyshire, England
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1861 census reg: RG9/2740/87/48
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George Howe 41 farmer 100 acres employing four b Middleton
Mary 31
Elizabeth 11
John 10
Mary 4
Margaret 2
Sarah 10 mths
John Howe 11 visitor
and 4 employees
all born Middleton except Sarah
In (?) House ,Youlgreave, Bakewell
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Marriage June 1848 Bakewell 19/371
George Martin Howe to Mary Parker
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1851 census HO107/2149/407/10
MIddleton Farm House
Elizabeth 63 wid farmer 99 acres b Whittington Derbyshire
George 37 son
Mary 21 son's wife
Elizabeth 2
John 6 mths
James Howe 23 son labourer
Ann 24 son's wife
John 2 son of above
No older John Howe turning up as yet.
Where did you get the name Martha Bunting from? This might be a help.
And also the years of birth of the children and their names.
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1841 Elizabeth Howe 55 is with George Howe 55 farmer in Youlgreave. No others recorded with them.
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My original information is from a descendant who lives in Australia.
I am trying to help her further. The details that she gave me are:-
John Howe born 14.02. 1814? Dronfield Derbyshire, -
married Elizabeth Hudson born 09.06.1789 in Whittington Derbyshire. Date of marriage not known (I am not sure if this is true) as:-
John Goodwin Howe born 22.10.1822 in Middleton Youlgreave Derbyshire -
married Mary Bunting (nothing else known about her)
Martha´s marriage certificate in Australia reads:-
Martha HOWE, spinster b. Chesterfield, aged 21
with parents father John HOWE, farmer and mother Mary BUNTING.
Their Children:-
Martha Howe born 17.06.1842 Chesterfield Derbyshire
John Howe born about 1 year later 1843 in Chesterfield
Martha & John Howe sailed to Australia on 15.11.1861
I have much more information after this time.
That is all I have at present 
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I have found two birth entries on freebmd for a John Howe which may fit in?
birth Sept 1844 Bakewell 19 395
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birth Dec 1844 Derby 19 476
John Howe born 14.02. 1814? Dronfield Derbyshire, - This could be the date of marriage - not John´s birth
And John Howe born 1822, Elizabeth and John Howe´s son?
This looks better than the information I became - see my last message.
As you say John Howe may not have married Mary Bunting.
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I can't find Marth 1842 or John 1843 on the 1851 or 1861 census. I wonder where they were?
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I´m lost for an answer - abroad?
Or not on any census 
Anything is possible, thank you for looking through the records 
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