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William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« on: Tuesday 19 February 08 20:28 GMT (UK) »

Can someone look up 1851 Census for Gloucestershire for a
William Holder  1871 age 25 yrs Thornbury Household  27.
  "            "        1861 age 15 yrs Gloucester Household 215/56 not sure
  "            "        1851 age 5 yrs       ditto       Household  26
Mother could be Naomi Holder !!!
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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 09:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi Janice

1871
A Possible

John Nelmes or Helmes head mar 47 furnace man Gloucs Blakeney?
Naomi             "             wife mar 49                           "  Woolpen?
Rosa               "             dau u/m 16 brickyard hand    "   Milkwall?
Clara              "             dau u/m 13           "                "        "
Harry               "            son u/m 9 scholar                   "        "
William   Holder nephew u/m 25 iron miner                 "   Thornbury

living at Milkwall, Newland,Gloucs

Rg10/ 5298
folio 26
page 6

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Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder
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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 09:51 GMT (UK) »

Hi Janice

Not sure about this but found this marraige

Naomi Holder
1846
March Quarter
Thornbury
Gloucs/ Avon
vol 11
page 551

On the same page are
Diana Cole
Thomas Greening
John Nelms

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Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire,
Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder
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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 10:14 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ricky

I don't want to spoil your fun but Janice has this info on her other threads - she is missing the 1851 though!

It is all a bit complicated!

kind regards, Arranroots  Wink

Edit - she has the 1851!!  What do you need Janice?!?
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 10:18 GMT (UK) »

Hi Arranroots

Thanks for that, will stop looking, being as its on other threads. Huh

ricky Wink
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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 10:23 GMT (UK) »

No no - I don't want to stop anyone looking - just prevent you from looking up things that Janice already has.

It is a complicated search - I know cos I have spent several hours on it myself!  The more help Janice gets the better though - in the nicest possible way, lol!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 10:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Thank you for your help, I am still trying to find him on 1851 census ,no luck so far.

Any help or ideas on where to look I would be grateful for.
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Janice
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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 11:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I am begining to think maybe William Holder's Birth was not Registered,could that have happened.

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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 11:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi Janice, a long shot but have you seen this entry on the 1851 - head of household is a Harriet Nelmes, Schoomistress(?)  There is a child William listed, surname looks like Weekman  Huh  Living in Thornbury.  May be nothing at all  Smiley

Census Ref: HO107/1957/208/19


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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 11:50 GMT (UK) »

Hi Janice

do you know if he had a middle name, as he might have been reg under that, I carnt see a plain William Holder born 1845 ish for Gloucestershire

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Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder
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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 11:55 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sue

Thanks for that I will look  at that one.

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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 11:56 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ricky,

Sorry no middle name,but thank you for looking.

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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 12:14 GMT (UK) »


Were Emma Nelmes and Naomi Nelmes the same person?  I'm a bit confused here: 

1871  William is 25 and Nephew of Naomi and John Nelmes

in 1861 he is 15 and stepson / wife's son - Emma and John Nelmes

in 1851 John is married to Naomi with daughter Sarah b. 1859.  This Sarah is apparently Emma's daughter in 1861 - at least, shes not step or wife's daughter.



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Re: William Holder 1846 Thornbury/Rockhampton
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 12:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I am confused as well!! as far as I can tell Emma and Naomi are the same person.William Holder .......Son .......Stepson.....Nephew   take your pick.all very odd,I am justing wondering was his name  William Holder as I just can't find him in 1851.

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