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Hi, I am looking for a James and Margaret Wood in the 1871/1891/1901 cenus. Also a May mills in the 1891 cenus aged about 13. Also a John and Jane Scullion in the 1901 cenus and a Thomas and Margaret Scullion in the 1901 cenus. A Hugh and Agnes Kennedy in the 1891/1901 and a William Young aged about 18 in the 1891 cenus. Sorry there is so much but anything will help. They may all be in the St Quivox and Newton-on-Ayr area.
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Hi Scully,
Willing to help but can you break down the families please? Also, see my reply to your other post as there are some additional names there.
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Hi, LL Thanks for the information on my other post. Do you have the ages of the Balmer children on the cenus as i have no marriage for Thomas,s daughter Margaret. Also the age of James in the 1901 Cenus as i have no marriage for him and i think that he is Margarets brother born 1871. The 1871/91/01 Census is for a James Douglas Wood/ Margaret Scrymgeuor Duncan married 4/6/1860 Ayr. Children are Robert 1861/William F 1863/ John 1869/ Crawford 1872/Jessie K 1873. The 1901 cenus is for a John Scullion /Jane Dillion married 8/4/1892. No need for May mills in the cenus as i found out she died at the end of 1881. As for John Scullion young in the 1901 cenus all i have is in the posts above.
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1901 Census 79 Wallace Street James Scullion Head Married age 30 Horse Dealer born Ayr Agness Wife age 30 born Ayr Agness daughter age 8 scholar born Ayr Thomas Balmer Nephew age 11 born Ayr Alice Balmer Niece age 9 born Ayr William Balmer Nephew age 7 born Glasgow Lanarkshire George Balmer Nephew age 3 born Glasgow Lanarkshire
81 Wallace Street Thomas Scullion Head Married age 55 Horse Dealer born Ireland Co Antrim Agness wife age 53 born Ayr James Father Widower age 89 (or 83 really hard to read) born Ireland Co Antrim Patrick boarder singel age 21 born Ayr Maggie Scullion Balmer Daughter Married age 33 born Ayr Agness Balmer Grand Daughter age 3 born Glasgow Lanarkshire James Balmer Grand Son age 2 months born Ayr
Here is Maggie's Marriage: 29 December1887 Ayr at the Manse Newton Ayr After Banns according to the Forms of the Church of Scotland William Balmer age 24 Shoemaker Journeyman Bachelor Usual Residence 59 Marn Street Newton Ayr Father George Balmer Coalminer Deceased Mother Alice Balmer MS Good married Maggie B Scullion age 19 Steam Loom Weaver Spinster Usual residence 82 Wallace Street St. Quivox Father Thomas Scullion General Dealer Mother Agnes Scullion MS Tierney Witness John Dickie Witness Agnes Regan
Maggie Scullion Balmer and William Balmer Children:
Thomas Scullion Balmer 29 June 1889 85 Wallace Street, St. Quivox Father William Balmer Shoemaker Journeyman Mother Maggie Balmer MS Scullion - Married December 29, 1887 Newton Ayr
Alice Good Balmer 5 Aug 1891 49 Wallace Street, St. Quivox Father William Balmer Shoemaker Journeyman Mother Maggie Balmer MS Scullion - Married Dec 29 1887
William Tierney Balmer 17 March 1894 239 Broad Street Milerend, Camlachie, Glasgow Father William Balmer Shoemaker Journeyman Mother Margaret Balmer MS Scullion - Married 29 Dec 1887
George Balmer 21 March 1896 90 Elder Street Govan, Glasgow Father William Blamer Shoemaker Mother AMrgaret Balmer MS Scullion - Married 29 Dec 1887
Agnes Tierney Balmer 3 May 1898 14 Heydon Street, Kinning Park, Glasgow Father William Blamer Shoemaker Mother Margaret Balmer MS Scullion - Married 29 Dec 1887
James Scullion Balmer 3 Oct 1900 14 Allison Street, Ayr Father William Balmer Shoemaker Mother Margaret Balmer MS Scullion - Married 29 Dec 1887
Not sure where Maggie's husband William is on the 1901 Census, but he outlives Maggie.
William Balmer Death Cert: 27 Jan 1935 William Balmer Shoemaker age 72 Widower of Margaret Scullion died January 27 63 Possil Road Res: 77 Drygate Glasgow Father George Balmer Coal Miner Deceased Mother Allison Balmer MS Good Deceased
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Now James Scullion is Maggie's brother: James Scullion Birth Cert 23 Feb 1871 Wallace Street, St. Quivox Father Thomas Scullion Carter Mother Agnes Scullion MS Tierney - Married 3 Dec 1867 Witnessed by Janet Tierney Grandmother
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James Marriage to Agnes 27 Nov 1890 The Chapel St. Quivox After Banns according to the forms of the Roman Catholic CHurch James Scullion age 19 Dealer Bachelor Usual residence 85 Wallace Street St. Quivox Father Thomas Scullion Dealer Mother Agnes Scullion MS Tiernay married Agnes Regan age 20 Spinster Usual Residence 85 Wallace Street St. Quivox Father Thomas Regan Dealer Deceased Mother Sarah Regan MS Crosbie Witness William Tierney Witness Sarah Regan
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The 1871/91/01 Census is for a James Douglas Wood/ Margaret Scrymgeuor Duncan married 4/6/1860 Ayr. Children are Robert 1861/William F 1863/ John 1869/ Crawford 1872/Jessie K 1873.
There is lots here and some new children you were not aware of. I suggest you update your tree and let me know which way you want to go from here.
4 June 1860 Ayr After Banns according to the Forms of the Presbyterian Church, Free Church James Douglas Wood 24 Tailor Bachelor Usual Residence Main Street Newton Father Robert Wood Dryer Mother Charlotte Wood MS Douglas Deceased Married Margaret Scrimgeour Duncan age 21 Domestic Spinster Usual Residence Victoria Park, Ayr Father James Duncan Gardener Mother Helen Scrimgeour Witness James Neill Witness Elizabeth Paterson
1871 Census: 197 Russell Street James D Wood Head Married 34 Clothier Master, born Ayrshire, Newton Margaret Wood Wife age 31 born Kirkmicheal Robert Wood Son 10 Scholar born Ayrshire, Ayr James D Wood Son 7 Scholar born Ayrshire, Newton William Wood Son 5 Ayrshire, Newton John Wood son 1 Ayrshire, Newton
1891 Census 31 Fort Street, Ayr Maggie Wood Head Married Age 50 born Lanark William Wood Son age 25 Ship Steward born Ayr Ayr Jessie Wood Daughter Age 17 Dressmaker born Ayr Ayr Charles Wood Son Age 16 Telegraph Messenger born Ayr Ayr
1901 Census 37 Fort Street, Ayr Margaret Wood Head Widow Age 61 born Lanarkshire Jessie Wood Daughter Age 27 Dressmaker born Ayrshire, Ayr Charles Wood Son Age 26 Clerk and Telegraphist born Ayrshire, Ayr Charles Tait Boarder Age 31 Chemist born Caithurs Thurso (??)
Crawford Wood Died 8 Fed 1872 1 day old Jessie Kirkpatrick Wood had a twin Maggie Scrymgeour Wood Charles Douglas Wood was born 25 Mar 1875
Death Cert 1911 Margaret Wood Widow of James Douglas Wood Age 71 Witness Son in Law Charles Tait
Marriage cert for Jessie Kirkpatrick Wood and Charles Tait 21 April 1903 After Banns according to the Forms of the United Free Church of Scotland Charles Tait Druggist age 33 Usual residence 37 Fort Street Father Richard Tait Tailor and Clothier Mother Christina Tait MS Clark Married Jessie Kirkpatrick Wood age 31 Dressmaker Spinster Usual residence 37 Fort Street Father James Douglas Wood Tailor and Clothier deceased Mother Margaret Scrimgeour Wood MS Duncan Witness Jessie Thomson Witness John Duncan Wood
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The 1901 cenus is for a John Scullion /Jane Dillion married 8/4/1892.
Marriage cert 8 April 1892 After Publication according to the Forms of the Roman Catholic Church John Scullion age 23 Bachelor usual residence 69 Mill Street Ayr Father James Scullion Dealer Mother Margaret Scullion MS Brown (dead) Married Jane Dillon age 19 Wool Spinner Spinster usual residence 69 Mill Street Ayr Father Hugh Dillon Coal Miner (dead) Mother Elizabeth Dillon MS Corbet
1901 Census 67 Mill Street Ayr John Scullion head married age 32 Ostler born Ayrshire, Ayr Jane D Scullion wife age 29 born Ayrshire, Ayr David Scullion Son age 11 Scholar born Ayrshire, Ayr Peggie Scullion daughter age 9 Scholar born Ayrshire, Ayr James Scullion son age 6 Scholar born Ayrshire, Ayr Mary Scullion daughter age 4 born Ayrshire, Ayr Hugh Scullion son age 2 born Ayrshire, Ayr
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Not tackled these two yet. Would they be in the same house or seperate? Are they all in Ayr as well? Do you have approximate ages for them? Need to narrow down William Young so any more details on him will help. A Hugh and Agnes Kennedy in the 1891/1901 and a William Young aged about 18 in the 1891 cenus.
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Hi, LL Thanks for all the information , I never expected this much information. You need not bother about the Kennedys . All i have on William Young is he was born on 7/5/1872 Glasgow but moved back to St Quivox by 1881. His parents were William John Young/ Elizabeth Scullion. Perhaps he Married Young. Its the same with his brother Samuel born 29/12/1874 don,t know what happened to him after the 1901 cenus .Perhaps they moved away from Scotland. Regards Scully
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Here is the missing info on both William and Samuel
1881 census 69 Cross Street William Young head age 30 Carter born Ireland Elizabeth Young wife 29 Out Door Worker born St. Quivox Agnes Young 12 Scholar born St. Quivox William Young 8 born Glasgow Samuel Young 6 born Glasgow
1948 Death Cert Samuel Young age 73 Carting Contractor retired Single 25 July 1948 15 Victoria Street Ayr Father William John Young Carter deceased Mother Elizabeth Young MS Scullion deceased Witness C Warron (sp) Brother in law
1891 Death Cert William Young age 18 Single 24 Feb 1891 Domicile – 36 Cross Street St. Quivox Father William John Young Carter Mother Elizabeth Young MS Scullion Cause of death inflammation of the bowels 8 days Witness Elizabeth Young
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Hi, LL, Thanks once again for the info. I was wandering if you would be able to find the marriage of a William Mc Phee to a Hannah Docherty Young and any Children. Hannah was born on the 27/8/1890 St Quivox and died 7/3/1965, Ayr her parents were William John Young and Elizabeth Scullion. All i know about William is i think his parents are a James McPhee and Mary Ann McLeary And he died on the 31/8/1949 Ayr. I would quite understand if you could not do any more as you have given me far more information than i expected. I am extreemly grateful for what you have allready given me.
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Here is what I Found. I have received a lot of help from others in my own tree quest. I am now playing the great wall of Ireland game with my tree so it feels satisfying to help others while I wait for the wall to give a little. My tree has many coming from Ayrshire and in helping others I find their trees connecting to mine sometimes which is really satisfying.
marriage of a William Mc Phee to a Hannah Docherty Young and any Children.
Marriage William McPhee and Elizabeth Young 23 Feb 1912 At the Mance Wallacetown Ayr After publication according to the Forms of the Established Church of Scotland William McPhee age 22 Rivet heater Bachelor Usual residence 74 Elbow Street Ayr Father James McPhee Holder on in Shipyard Mother Mary McPhee MS McCleary deceased Married Annie Young age 21 Wool Spinner Usual Residence 6 Limand’s Wynd Ayr Father William John Young Carter Mother Elizabeth Young MS Scullion deceased Witness David Hendrie Witness Annie McLauchlan
Children will be tricky as these certs must be ordered. When I did a search in Ayr with the last name McPhee and mother’s maiden name of Young the following came up that could fit. I believe the middle as a strong fit for children and possible the last one. Not sure about the first one:
Died Surname Forename Other Names age apx dob 1996 McPhee Archibald Young 82 1914 1999 McPhee Hannah Webb 79 1920 1993 McPhee Mary McCleary Gordon 76 1917 1990 McPhee Sarah Lucas Young Stewart 78 1912
Hannah Docherty Young Birth Cert Born 27 Aug 1890 Father William John Young Carter Mother Elizabeth Young MS Scullion Married 1867 St. Quivox
William McPhee Birth Cert 3 Jan 1890 109 Main Street Newton Ayr Father James McPhee Carpet Weaver Mother Mary Ann McPhee MS McCleary Married 31 Dec 1883 Govan
William’s sister Elizabeth: Birth Cert 7 Nov 1891 Elizabeth McCleary McPhee Father James McPhee Rivetter’s Holder-on Mother Mary Ann McPhee MS McCleary Married 31 Dec 1883
Marriage Cert James McPhee and Mary Ann McCleary Govan Glasgow City/Lanark 31 Dec 1883 At Woodville Place Govan After Publication according to the Forms of the Free Church of Scotland James McPhee age 20 Rivetter Holder-up Bachelor Usual residence 202 Brighton Street Govan Father James McPhee Lace Cord Cutter Mother Agnes McPhee MS McCartney deceased Married Mary Ann McCleary age 18 Confectionary Worker Spinster Usual Residence 18 Holm Street Govan Father Henry McCleary Ship Yard Labourer deceased Mother Helen McCLeary MS Gemmill Witness William Hair Witness Margaret McCleary
1891 Census Govan 202 Brighton Street James McPhee Head age 28 Holder-On born Ayrshire, Ayr Mary McPhee wife age 27 born Lanarkshire, Glasgow James son 6 born Lanarkshire, Govan Susan daughter 4 born Ayrshire, Ayr Agnes daughter 3 born Ayrshire, Ayr William son 1 born Ayrshire, Ayr
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Hi, LL, Thanks again for the info. Is your tree related to mine at all. I am also having problems with Youngs, Scullions and the Hendries all coming from Ireland. Its like William Young born in Ireland in about 1850 and married in Ayr in 1868. I Know his parents were an Andrew Young and his mother was Sarah Smith on his marriage But her name was Agnes Smith on his death Certificate. and she was dead when he married. Its not knowing where in Ireland he was born or wether he came to scotland with his parents or if he had any siblings he came with. Its hard to think he came on his own. I Know the James Scullion/ Margaret Brown were married in County Antim in 1844/1845 and who thier parents were but thats as far as i have got.
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I know exactly what you mean about not knowing how and when they came from Ireland. At least they list the County in Ireland on some of your relatives. I had no clue and it took a lot of time to find some hint of where in Ireland they came from. Is there any more information you are trying to find in Ayr? Our trees have not crossed yet.
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