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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 22 March 08 14:28 GMT (UK) »

Hi, LL
I have lots still to find in Ayr. One family is Robert Mills Wood Hendrie/Margaret Niven Agnew. I have their marriage but no deaths. I know the dates of his parents Robert Woods Hendrie/ Marion Mills  marriage and deaths but i only know Margarets parents were Robert Agnew and Margaret Gibson Mitchell. I don,t know where she was born. Also the daughters  of James Hendrie/ Marion Wood, All i know is Janet Hendrie born about 1852 Newton-on-Ayr  no date of birth/ marriage or deaths.  No marriages or deaths for the follwing daughters Mary Hendry 12/7/1856., Charlotte Douglas Hendrie,6/3/1862, Jane Hammond Hendrie,

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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 22 March 08 21:18 GMT (UK) »

Robert Mills Wood Hendrie/Margaret Niven Agnew:

Death 1979 (you have to order this to see details)
Margaret Niven Hendrie
Other surnames Agnew Mitchell
Age 81
Ayr, South Ayrshire

Birth Cert Margaret Niven Agnew
10 Jan1898
Margaret Niven Agnew (Illegitemate)
34 Weaver Street Newton Ayr
Father Robert Agnew Pit Foreman
Mother Margaret Gibson Mitchell Housemaid

There is only one Margaret Gibson Mitchell that fits the age range
Birth Cert 9 May 1875
Waterside Place Old Cumnock
Margaret Gibson Mitchell
Father Hugh Mitchell Ploughman
Mother Jane Mitchell MS Hewet
Married 29 May 1871 Tarbolton

If this is the right Margaret Gibson Mitchell, here is her family on the 1881 Census
10 Green St Lane, Newton on Ayr
Hugh Mitchell head age 30 Railway Porter born Tarbolton Ayr
Jane wife age 26 Railway Porter’s wife born Tarbolton Ayr
Margaret daughter 5 born Old Cumnock
Janet daughter 4 born Old Cumnock
Annie daughter 2 born Newton Ayr
John son 4 month born Newton Ayr

1901 Census  There is only one Margaret that fits the age range – Margaret Niven Agnew shows up with Robert’s parents?
136 Glasgow Road
Robert Agnew Head age 58 Coal Miner Born Ireland
Mary Agnew Wife Age 49 born Lanarkshire, Shotts
Elizabeth daughter age 27 born Midlothian, Edinburgh
Robert Son age 16 Coal Miner born Lanarkshire, Carnwatt
Charles son age 14 Coal Miner born Lanarkshire, Hamilton
Margaret Granddaughter age 2 born Lanarkshire, Hamilton


Death Cert 1979 (you have to order this to see details)
Robert Mills Wood Hendrie
Age 79
Ayr, South Ayrshire

Birth Cert 24 May 1899
Robert Wood Mills Hendrie
Father Robert Hendrie Carter
Mother Marion Hendrie MS Mills
Married 18 Sept 1888 Newton Ayr

Birth Cert Marion Mills
12 Oct 1862
Father James Mills Carter
Mother Marion Mills MS Wilson
Married 1 Jan 1853 Newton Ayr

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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 22 March 08 21:20 GMT (UK) »

Janet Hendrie:

Marriage Cert Janet Hendrie
20 June 1871 Newton, Ayr
Henry Agnew Seaman Bachelor Age 28 (?)
Usual residence Allison Street Newton Ayr
Father William Agnew Gardener
Mother Mary Agnew MS Gilford (??)
Married
Janet Hendrie Sewer Spinster age 20
Usual Residence Main Street Newton Ayr
Father James Hendrie Carter
Mother Marian Hendrie MS Wood Deceased
Witness John Andrew
Witness Mary Hendrie

Death Cert 3 Dec 1873
Janet Agnew married to Henry Agnew Seaman
Died 22 years of age
Father James Hendrie Carter
Mother Marion Hendrie MS Wood deceased
Witness Henry Agnew Widower
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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 22 March 08 21:22 GMT (UK) »

Mary Hendrie:

Marriage Cert Mary Hendrie 24 Sept 1880
Newton Ayr
David Gemmell age 21Tailor (Journeyman) Bachlor
Usual residence W Main Street Newton Ayr
Father Robert Gemmell Fisherman Deceased
Mother Catherine Gemmell MS Niven Deceased
Married
Mary Hendrie age 23 Spinster
Usual residence W Main Street Newton Ayr
Father James Hendrie Carter
Mother Marion Hendrie MS Wood deceased
Witness Alex Callyham (sp)
Witness Jessie Wood

1891 Census David Gemmell
73 Main Street Newton Ayr
David N Gemmell Head Married age 31 Tailor born Ayrshire, Ayr
Mary H Gemmell Wife Age 33 born Ayrshire, Ayr

1901 Census David Gemmel
50 Mainstreet Newton Ayr
David Gemmel Head Married Age 41 Tailor
Mary Wife age 44 Housekeeper

Death Cert Mary Gemmell (Hendrie)
16 July 1912
Mary Gemmell widow of Hendry Niven Gemmell (Tailor)
Usual residence 135 Main Street Newton Ayr
Father James Hendrie Carter deceased
Mother Marion Hendrie MS Wood Deceased
Witness Robert Gemmell Brother-in-law

FYI, the Gemmell family here may be connected to my tree but I would have to trace back this David to see if he connects.
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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 22 March 08 21:38 GMT (UK) »

In looking for Charlotte Hendrie, the 1891 Census is interesting.  There are some brothers that you had not listed so not sure if you knew about them.  Also the David Gemmel that married Mary lived next door.

1891 Newton Ayr
2 Wood Close
James Hendrie Head Widow 48 Carter born Ayrshire, AYr
Janet daughter age 19
Mary Daughter age 15
John Son age 13
Charlotte daughter age 9
Robert N Son 7
Jane H daughter 4

Next on the Census is 50 Main street
Robert Wood Head Widow age 79 Dayer and Renovator born England

Then we have 3 Woods Land
William Gemmell Head age 24 Fisher
Marion Wife age 21

Then at 4 Woods Land
Robert Gemmell Head age 38 Fisher
Catherine wife age 39
William Son age 13 Baker
David son age 11
Robert Son age 6
Catherine Gemmell daughter age 15 Servant
Janet B daughter age 8
Agnes B daughter age 3
Euphemia daughter age 3
Mary Daughter age 1 month

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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 22 March 08 23:20 GMT (UK) »

the last post should have said the 1871 Census not 1891.

Charlotte Douglas Hendry Death Cert
2 May 1875
Charlotte Douglas Hendry Single
Mainstreet Newton Ayr age 13
Father James Hendry Carter
Mother Marion Douglas Hendry MS Wood Deceased
Witness James Hendry Father
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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 23 March 08 00:02 GMT (UK) »

Birth Cert 14 April 1866
Jane Hammond Hendry
Main street Newton Ayr
Father James Hendry Labourer
Mother Marion Hendry MS Woods
Married June 1851

Death Cert 26 March 1877
Jeanie Hammond Hendry single
Main Street Newton Ayr
Age 10
Father James Hendry Carter
Mother Marion Hendry MS Woods deceased
Witness James Hendry Father
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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 23 March 08 14:31 GMT (UK) »

Hi,LL
Thanks again. Looking for info on a John douglas Hendrie born about 1888, His parents were John Hendrie & Mary Mc llvoy. Thats all i know about him before he got married. I know he married Margaret Brown Young on 17/9/1903 and i have the dates of his children,s births from1904/1922, and i know Margaret Youngs part of the family. I don,t know when John & Margaret died. i hope you don,t mind me asking you about  a problem i have come across. I have a Mary Scullion born about 1848 in St Quivox , her parents were James Scullion & Margaret Brown. I have found a marriage of a Mary Scullion to Thomas Fitzimmons 9/9/1867 St Quivox, but it says her parents are Thomas Scullion & Elizabeth Brown. Do you think it could have been written down wrong as everything else seems to fit.

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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 23 March 08 18:01 GMT (UK) »

1991 Census St Rollox Glasgow
16g Dottinhome (sp)
John Hendrie head age 41 Married Form Moulder born Lanarkshire Glasgoe
Mary wife age 28 born Lanarkshire Glasgow
Christina daughter age 7 Scholar born England
Annie daughter age 5 born England
John son age 3 born Lanarkshire Glasgow

Death Cert 13 Sept 1929
Margaret Brown Scullion Hendry
Married to John Douglas Hendry (Carting Contractor’s Carter)
Age 47
Lomond’s Wynd Ayr
Father William John Young Carting Contractor Deceased
Mother Agnes Young MS Scullion Deceased
Witness J Hendry Widower present

I can not find anything on John’s Death

Mary Scullion who married Fitzsimmons

There is a death cert for a Mary Fitzsummons age 26 14 June 1874
Married to Robert Fitzsummons Pit Engine Man
Father James Scullion Pig Dealer
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Brown
Witness Robert Fitzsummons Widower
I believe this one to be yours
The other one I believe to be a different Mary as her husband is Thomas and the parents are different.
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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 23 March 08 22:00 GMT (UK) »

Hi, LL,
Thanks again , I am so grateful to you for sorting out the Mary scullion for me. Is there any chance you could find a marriage or death for a Janet Scullion born about 1852 St Quivox. Her parents were a James Scullion& Margaret Brown. I don, t want to push my luck with you as you have been so helpful.

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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #25 on: Monday 24 March 08 02:26 GMT (UK) »

Janet disappears between the 1861 and 1871 Census.  She shows up as a 9 year old on the 1861 Census then on the 1871 Census she is not in the house (but James and Margaret  have two of the Fitzsummons Grandchildren living with them  - Annie 2 and Thomas 5 month).  No deaths between 1861 and 1871 for her age range and no marriages that are her.  She just vanishes.

No worries about pushing your luck.  I will let you know when I am done.  If you can help me with some records in England let me know as we can exchange favours.

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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #26 on: Monday 24 March 08 12:42 GMT (UK) »

Hi,L
Thanks, Where abouts in England, I have the Cenus from 1841 through to 1901 for Northumberland  if thats of any help. Could you check for the the marriage of Janet Scullion born the 9/3/1873,parents were Thomas Scullion & Agnes Tierny. Also the birth of Agnes Tierny (Terney)born about 1847  & parents Barney Tereney & Janet Mcculloch.
Also Thomas and Agnes deaths they were married on 2/12/1867.

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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #27 on: Monday 24 March 08 19:00 GMT (UK) »

Cornwall, Stretton-on France, and Lazenby.
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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #28 on: Monday 24 March 08 19:32 GMT (UK) »

Janet Scullion was never married.

Death Cert 24 May 1874
Janet Scullion
Wallace Street St. Auivox 1 year old
Father Thomas Scullion Pig Dealer
Mother Agnes Scullion ms Tiernay
Witness Thomas Scullion Father

Death Cert 13 March 1924
Thomas Scullion age 80
Horse Dealer
Widower of Agnes Tierney
23 Wallace Street AYr
Father James Scullion Horse Dealer deceased
mother Mrgaret Scullion MS Brown deceased
Witness T (?) Balmer Grandson

Death Cert 16 May 1914
Agnes Scullion age 66
Married to Thomas Scullion General Dealer
81 Wallace Street Ayr
Father Bernard Tierney Coal Salesman deceased
mother Janet Tierney MS McCulloch deceased
Witness James Scullion So Present 53 King Street Ayr

I could find no birth cert for Agnes.
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Re: 1871/1891/1901 Cenus
« Reply #29 on: Monday 24 March 08 20:54 GMT (UK) »

Hi,LL
Thanks again. The only problem with getting any information in England is there is only the basic details on the certificates. There is only St Caths which gives you a year and part of the year when the B.d.m,s  occurd  then you have to send away for certificates.  I wish it was more like Scotland for the information you can get on certificates.

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