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HEDLEY Emily c1864
« on: Saturday 23 February 08 16:39 GMT (UK) »

Can anyone help please

I am trying to find  Emily Hedley.   What I have so far is from her marriage certificate ....

Emily Hedley married Daniel McCue April 1883 at the Register Office Middlesborough,  She was 19 and her Father James (who was deceased) was a Joiner.  Their address was Albert Mews, Middlesborough

I did send for Birth certificate of Emily Hedley 1866 district Auckland, Dec qtr.  The record office have since informed me that the father was not James!

Can anyone point me in the right direction please

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 February 08 16:51 GMT (UK) »

One thing that might help - in 1891 Could this be the family living in Linthorpe, Middlesborough?

89 Lower Calthorpe St

Daniel McCue  Head 40 Slate works labourer   Durham
Emily      "        Wife  29                                     Manchester
Sophia    "       Daur   6                                      Middlesborough

RG12; Piece: 4011; Folio 85; Page 19

The age isn't quite consistent for Emily. Do you know whether Sophia is correct? Anyway, if this is right, then we have Emily from Manchester, not from  Durham/Yorkshire

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 February 08 17:18 GMT (UK) »

Hello Isobel, thanks for this info and yes this is the correct family on the census 1891, on the 1901 Emily is not there!!! (not got round to the deaths yet Smiley)

I still can't find her before her marriage though!  I did follow an Emily Hedley in the Lancs region with parents John and Martha, then someone mailed me on GR told me I had the wrong Emily.  Apparently this one was from their own line which threw my search out the window!  Sad  Then I sent for the marriage certificate which states father James!

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 February 08 02:40 GMT (UK) »

Glenda

Just another thought. Who are the witnesses on the marriage certificate? Any chance of them being siblings of Emily?

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 February 08 10:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi Isobel,

Witnesses:-    A. Hedley and Bernard McCue.  Why couldn't they have signed their full Christian name!!  Angry


This one has been driving me nuts for some time now.   Ended up leaving it for a couple of months then picked it up again since receiving the marriage cert.  And, it's still driving me nuts  Smiley

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 February 08 13:21 GMT (UK) »

Now here's something that's really interesting. Smiley

I saw in 1901 that there was another daughter, Alice, born about 1883 in Middlesborough. She wasn't there in 1891, so where was she? In 1891 I found a possibility in Salford.

70 West Horsley St, Salford
Louisa Hopley Head M 23 Waitress, retired   Darlington
John C.   "       Husband M 33 Grocer's assistant  Liverpool
Sarah E. Bowman Sister S 19 Upholstress Middlesborough
Susannah E. "      Sister S 17  waitress  West Hartlepool
James F. " Brother 12 Errand boy Middlesborough
ALICE M. M. McCUE Niece 8  Middlesborough
John W. Hopwood Boarder S 38 Clerk Salford

RG12; Piece: 3229; Folio 58; Page 11

Firstly, it's interesting that Louisa has herself as head rather than her husband. I've only ever seen the woman down as head with husband listed as husband with Queen Victoria, so way to go Louisa Grin Mind, also at 23 listing herself as "retired" is also interesting.
On the more important side, Louisa could of course be Daniel's sister, but then her sisters and brother would be McCues not Bowmans.

Now in 1881 we find
No 3 Shakespear Middlesborough
John Bowman Head 53 Engineman at steel works Newcastle
Sophia   "        Wife 50                                           Yorkshire, Richmond
EMILY    "         Daur 18                                         MANCHESTER
Ann       "         Daur 16                                          Manchester
Louisa  "         Daur 13                                                "
Sarah   "         Daur 10                                            Middlesborough
Susannah "     Daur 8                                                  "
James       "     Son 4                                                    "
Thomas Faucitt Lodger 28 General Labourer  Richmond
RG11; Piece: 4852; Folio: 12; Page: 15

By the way in 1891 Sophia Bowman is listed as mother-in-law to  George Canwell who with his wife, Martha A aged 26 lives in Middlesborough
RG12; Piece: 4006; Folio 91; Page 21


Now I know that this gives more questions than answers. If this is the right family, where does the Hedley name come from? One possibility is that Emily had a brief first marriage to Mr. Hedley and that James was her father in law. I know this is a stretch, but I had someone who did just that - was previously married, listed herself as single on her marriage certificate, and gave the name of her father in law, and even his occupation as her father.

I've had a quick look for a Bowman marrying a Hedley though with no success. This is very interesting though. Undecided Undecided

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 February 08 13:27 GMT (UK) »

When I said this was interesting, that was a huge understatement. Smiley

I mentioned Sophia Bowman with George and Martha A. Canwell in 1891. There is a marriage between George Henry Canwell and Martha Anne  HEDLEY in 1st quarter 1887 Chorlton  Vol 8c page 957.

Now I'm really intrigued!!!

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 February 08 13:35 GMT (UK) »

There's also a Louisa HEDLEY marrying Charles HOPLEY 1st Quarter 1890 Chorlton  Vol 8c page 993.

That's Emily, Louisa and Martha listing themselves as Hedley at their marriage. Also possibly Ann if she is the A. Hedley on Emily's marriage certificate. They are the older children. Perhaps they are really step daughters to John Bowman and that Sophia was married before.
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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 February 08 16:54 GMT (UK) »

What about this from the Tees Valley Indexes?
Sophia Fawcett married Henry Hedley, 1857

In 1851 18 year old Sophia Fawcett is with her family in Richmond, Yorkshire (HO 107/ 2381/ Folio 143/page 15)

A Thomas Faucitt is lodging with Sophia and her family in Middlesbrough in 1881.

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 24 February 08 17:04 GMT (UK) »

However........

in 1861 Sophia, aged 27 from Richmond Yorkshire, is in Lancashire with husband Richard Walch (a Joiner) and son Thomas, 1 month.

Lodging with them are James and William Fawcett from Richmond Yorkshire.

RG9/2874/Folio 121/page 9.

Curiouser and curiouser!

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 24 February 08 17:21 GMT (UK) »

Another thing (I really can't let this one go!), I found a birth in 1877 for James Fawcett Bowman in Middlesborough.

In 1901 census 11 Derby Rd, West Hartlepool is
James F. Bowman Head 24 Labourer , Blast Furnace  Middlesborough
Hannah     "    Wife 25                       West Hartlepool
Walter Canwell nephew 17 Labourer, Blast furnace  Middlesborough
Ann V. HEADLEY visitor Wid 70               Richmond, Yorkshire
RG13; Piece: 4641; Folio: 124; Page: 21

A couple of interesting things with this. The lodger with John and Sophia Bowman in 1881 was Thomas Faucitt - was he a relative? Is Faucitt/Fawcett Sophia's maiden name? We have Walter Canwell (George and Martha's son?)
Is Ann V. Headley really Sophia? The age and location of birth match. Again we have Headley/Hedley, though of course the first names don't match at all!!

Following on from this Thomas, I searched for Thomas Fawcett's from Richmond. In 1861 I came across a family

Market Place, Richmond
James Fawcett Head 54 watchmaker
Sarah     "         Wife 51
Margaret "        Daur 15 Scholar
Henrietta  "      Daur 13 "
John         "       Son   11  "
THOMAS   "       Son  10   "
MARY HEDLEY Grand Daur 3   "

All from Richmond
RG9; Piece: 3674; Folio: 14; Page: 21

In 1851 the Fawcett family is again in Richmond and includes an 18 year old daughter, SOPHIA ANN.
There is a marriage listed for Sophia Ann Fawcett in Stockton 1st Quarter 1857 Vol 10a page 74 or 94. There is also a HENRY HEDLEY listed for page 74 of the same volume.

So this is what we might have:
Sophia Ann Fawcett, daughter of James and Sarah Fawcett married Henry Hedley in 1857. They had several daughters, Mary in 1858, Emily 1863, Martha/Ann 1865 and Louisa in 1868. Henry died and Sophia remarried to John Bowman. They had Sarah in 1870, Susannah in 1873 and James in 1877.

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 24 February 08 17:24 GMT (UK) »

Whoops. Sorry. I see that I've repeated some of Jennifer's information. I had pressed the send button, and it didn't go through and I hadn't noticed.

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 24 February 08 17:43 GMT (UK) »

Just found on free BMD:  Emily Walsh, born Manchester 4q of 1864.

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 24 February 08 17:47 GMT (UK) »

Louisa Walsh, born 3rd quarter 1867, Haslingden (Lancashire).

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Re: HEDLEY Emily c1864
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 24 February 08 18:20 GMT (UK) »

Sorry! I started this earlier then had to leave.   I will check all this info out tomorrow, thank you so very much.

I will be back!  I too can't leave this

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