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tommacgregor
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Hello Henry,
Very many thanks for your kindness in contacting me again. I'm all ears about those individuals that you have mentioned. All I need is the minimum of information, e.g. Names, ages, locations, date of occurrence., and I will have an enjoyable time trying to sort it out.
I wouldn't mind laying a bet that I will be "connecting" to some of the Burt's that I'm conversant with. On top of that list of possible connections , I should have included the Beveridge's.
Looking forward to hearing from you, and I hope that you will enjoy the next part of the Burt Saga!
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
On this posting and the next I will be taking a look at two of the sons of Alexander Burt and his wife Isabell Allan. They were Andrew Burt and his brother John, born in the early 1800's at Dunfermline in Fife.
Andrew Burt was born on 13th May, 1813 at Baldridge, Dunfermline in Fife and married Elizabeth Dunlop on the 11th July, 1835 at Culross in Perthshire. Andrew died on the 10th April, 1859 at Falkirk in Stirlingshire, and his wife, Elizabeth died on 19th November, 1859. They were both buried at Polmont Church Yard, Falkirk in Stirlingshire.
Their children were:
Mary Burt born 17th April, 1836 at Inzievar, Torryburn, Fife.
Alexander Burt born 8th April, 1837 at Torryburn, Fife.
Peter Andrew Burt born 10th April, 1840 at New Mills, Torryburn Fife.
Isabella Burt born 10th April, 1842 at Torryburn, Fife.
George Burt born 10th March, 1844 at Inzievar, Torryburn, Fife.
John Burt INFANT born 26th May, 1846 at Oakley, Fife.
Elizabeth Burt INFANT born 21st June, 1848 at Oakley, Fife.
Jean (or Jane) Burt born 8th Jun 1850 at Oakley, Fife.
Andrew Burt born 9th October, 1852 at Browns Mine, Strathavon, Lanarkshire.
Adam Burt born 9th February, 1855 at Slamanan, Stirlingshire.
James Burt Born 22nd February, 1858 at Westmuir, Polmont, Slamanan, Stirlingshire.
The Andrew Burt who was born on 9th October, 1852 emigrated to America and married Charlotte Louise Shimmin on the 20th October, 1884 at Salt Lake City, Utah. He died on 26th July, 1922 at Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.
The George Burt who was born 10th March, 1844 married a Mary Thompson on 1st August, 1868.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
In this posting I will be taking a look at John Burt, a son of Alexander Burt and Isabell Allan. John was born on the 12th August, 1816 at Dunfermline in Fife. and he married Margaret Burt on the 10th Deember 1836 at Torryburn in Fife. No, that's not a typing error, since Margaret was the daughter of Peter Burt and Ann Allan. Gee! Life get's pretty complicated doesn't it!
The children of John Burt and Margaret were:
Mary Anne Burt who was born and died on 11th September, 1837 at Torryburn, Fife.
Annie Allan Burt born 24th September, 1838 at Dunfermline, Fife.
Alexander Burt Born in 1839 and died the following year.
Peter John Burt born 14th December, 1839 at Rumford, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire.
Isabella Burt born 28th June, 1841 at Rumford, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire.
Margaret Burt born 11th January, 1843 at Mediston, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire. She died on 10th February, 1843.
Andrew Burt born 15th August, 1844 at Mediston, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire and died four years later.
Jane (or Jean) Burt born 1st May, 1846 at Slamannan, Stirlingshire.
William Burt born 1st May, 1847 at Rumford, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire.
He died in the same year.
Mary Thompson Burt born 7th May, 1850 at Mediston, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire.
Sarah Burt born and died in 1852 at Strathavon, Stirlingshire.
John Burt born 24th July, 1853 at Dunfermline, Fife.
Christina Burt born 11th August, 1856 and died in same year.
Adam Burt born 10th January, 1859 at Wallacetown, Polmont, Stirlingshire.
Our American friends will be interested to know that John Burt, born 12th August, 1816 in Dunfermline died on 18th April, 1888 at Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. His wife, Margaret Burt had died on the 9th August, 1874 at Salt Lake City, Utah. Jane (or Jean) Burt died on 26th April, 1920 at ogden, Weber, Utah. Isabella Burt died 22nd August, 1926 at Salt Lake City, Utah. John Burt 12th December, 1926 at Salt Lake City, Utah and Annie Allan Burt died on the 30th June, 1923 at Salt Lake City, Utah.
I guess our American friends will now have "fun and games" researching their records for details of who married who in the States!
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
Just for a change, I thought that you may wish to turn away from the USA for a while and look towards our "near neighbours across the Tasman Sea - New Zealand). Remember that I live in Australia!
David Burt was born aout 1842 at Abbotshall near Kirkcaldy in Fife and married a Martha Millar (Miller?) on the 25th September, 1863 at Govan in Lanarkshire.
Their children:
Peter Miller Burt born 9th November, 1863 in Scotland.
Mary Thoms Burt born 5th August, 1865 Govan, Lanark, Scotland.
Henry Burt born 19th May, 1867 at Govan, Lanark, Scotland.
David Burt born 1st June, 1869 at Glasgow in Scotland.
John Miller Burt born 20th October, 1871 at Govan, Lanark, Scotland.
James Burt born about 1874 in Scotland.
George Burt born about 1876 in Scotland.
Joseph Ford Burt born about 1878 in Glasgow Scotland.
Willie Burt born about 1880 at Rangiora, New Zealand.
We see that David Burt, the father of this family died on the 14th December, 1889 at Rangiora, New Zealand and that his wife, Martha Miller died on 13th February, 1910 at Hornby, Christchurch on the South Island of New Zealand.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
I have reached a very crucial stage in my research of the Burt family and closing in on one specific individual. This individual has been a thorn in my side for some considerable time, and I have always believed that an assumption that I had made was the wrong one.
Although I have a pretty good knowledge of Fife, I am unable to pin down exactly where Swallowhut is in Fife, although I initially believed that it was in the Dunfermline area. I did a search on ScotsOrigins but drew a total blank.
As I said, it is crucial that I pin down the location because I am just about to commence a new posting on a family that will be of immense interest to many other researchers out there. I have already carried out a huge amount of research on the subject matter and have been putting it into a reasonable chronological order ready for insertion into the Fife Board. However, this location in Fife plays a key part in what I'm about to write about.
When I talk about the Dunfermline area, I'm not just saying the Royal Burgh of Dunfermline, I'm talking about surrounding areas such as Beath, Fordell, Dalgety, etc.
If some enterprising individual out there can put their finger on the location, then I will be able to do a job that should clear up many of the problems about linking important Fife families.
I look forwad to a swift response.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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sancti
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Tom I found this info about a house for rent.
Swallow’s Rest forms the largest dwellinghouse within an exceptional steading conversion of 4 homes, near Dunfermline in Fife.
The property has stunning views to the south, over open farmland, toward the Forth Rail and Road Bridges. Edinburgh and the central belt are reached via the M90 which lies approximately 1 ˝ miles to the west of Dales Steading. Inverkeithing Railway Station is less than a mile away
Nearest stations:
(0.9 miles) Inverkeithing
(1.1 miles) Dalgety Bay
(1.2 miles) Rosyth
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Tom
From the 1841 census, inserting just Fife and Swallow for address search, the only thing coming up is an address of SWALLOW DRUM...so happens in the parish of Dunfermline.
What period are we talking about here?
Monica 
ADDED: In 1881, probably with changes to areas/reg. districts etc., there is one entry as follows:
Address:Rose Bank Cottage Swallow Drum, Civil Parish: Inverkeithing, Registration district: Dunfermline.
The single entry in 1881 indicates a farm. Occupation for the Dickson living there is "farmer of 60 acres"
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Henry7
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Tom -
"Swallowdrum" was the first (& only) place i could think of, if it's near Dunfermline.
Swallowdrum is about 2 miles north-west of the town, so it's near to some of the other places you've mentioned - Baldridge, Blackburn, Rumblingwell - and not far north of Pitfirrane where so many Burts lived.
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tommacgregor
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Hello Henry,
Many thanks for that, and your answer is exactly what I was hoping to hear.
What I'm looking for is a "migration" for a well-known Fife family to Lanarkshire that has been troubling me for some time. This migration took place round about 1820 from around the Dunfermline area.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello Monica,
Long time -no speak, so it's lovely to hear from you again. Your research matches up very nicely with what Henry said in his post. He actually touched on the root of the problem, and he mentioned the other "districts" or "suburbs" of Dunfermline that I thought that Swallowhut may be.
I have now got some very good data that appears to match up with the period in time that I'm so interested in, i.e. around 1820. That is the time that the family I'm researching made their "migration" to Lanarkshire.
I'm now about 95% towards solving one of the brick walls in my Family Tree, and boy! - doesn't that feel great? In a couple of days or so, when I complete my work on the Allan family, I will be releasing a new posting that should be of immense interest to Sancti, which I'm delighted to be able to do, because he has been a pillar of strength during a rather torrid time.
I greatly appreciate your involvement and it was really nice that you have shown interest. By the way, my cousin living in Cowdenbeath tells me that the Fife Archive Centre is currently being refurbished but she will be going there next week for me to obtain the information that I require on Mary Livingstone.
All this assistance is mind-blowing and has cheered me up no end.
Kind Regards,
Tom
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Hello Sancti,
Just got back from from having a quiet meal out with my wife and daughter, and found the three messages about the place I am trying to locate. I tend to believe that it must have been a transcription error. Swallow Hut - Swallow Drum?
The whole point is that it is close to other Dunfermline locations such as Baldridge, and that is exactly what I was hoping for, because I know that there was a movement by the family from around Dunfermline in Fife to Lanarkshire. I know that, and so, because the information that I'm looking at is recorded on Film and thus is certainly not just "wishful thinking".
In a day or two I hope to be able to lay out some details that will make you quite a happy lad, but I wanted to check and recheck what I have, and thus save you an awful lot of work.
Very many thanks for your willingness to help me out again.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
After all that wonderful assitance form my good friends Monica, Sancti, Henry and Beans, it's back to the coalface.
James Allan was born around the year 1659 at Dufermline. He married Margaret Hunter on the 24th July, 1684 at Dunfermline.
Their children were:
Jane Allan who was christened on 10th September, 1685 at Dunfermline.
Patrick Allan who was born on 29th April, 1688 at Dunfermline.
Robert Allan born 7th September, 1690 at Dunfermline, Fife.
David Allan born 5th July, 1697 at Dunfermline, Fife.
I want you to note that Patrick went on to marry Margaret Philp on the 20th March, 1713 at Dunfermline, when he was about 25 years of age.
As always, I would urge you to check the above details, using your own Search Engines, and if there are any amendmens to be made, please let us all know.
Kind Regards,
Tom
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