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Stuck on Frederick Hart Murray
« on: Monday 25 February 08 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Hiya guys

I am trying to solve a bit of a conundrum so any help would be appreciated

I have in 1881 and 1891 a Frederick Hart Murray b 1863 Eccleshall, Staffordshire living in Overley Hill, Shropshire with his family and wifes parents. His death is listed 1900 aged 50 (age a little out)

Problem is I cant find him in an earlier census

There is a Frederick Murray b 1863 West Felton Shropshire with parents John and Harriet (mistranscribed on Ancestry 1871) and a baptism on the IGI for 7.3.52 at West Felton

There doesn't seem to be a registration of his birth on FreeBMD or one for his parents marriage

Is this the same Frederick? I'm a bit at a loss so any suggestions are welcome

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Re: Stuck on Frederick Hart Murray
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 February 08 18:59 GMT (UK) »
on the 1881 it states birthdate 1853 not 1863.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 February 08 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Wozzle

Yes sorry my boo boo - it should be 1853

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Re: Stuck on Frederick Hart Murray
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 February 08 19:05 GMT (UK) »
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name . frederick hart murray
y.o.r. 1880.
qtr. apr/may/jun.
dist. atcham.
county. montgomeryshire,shropshire.
vol. 6a.
page. 1183.
also on the same page. mary houlding.
if you send for the marriage cert you should be able to find fathers name and occupation. and then work from that.
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Re: Stuck on Frederick Hart Murray
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 February 08 19:16 GMT (UK) »
He's the only Frederick Murray on Ancestry- 1861 also has mother's mother - Jones does that ring a bell? If not then you may have even more information as a result.
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Re: Stuck on Frederick Hart Murray
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 February 08 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Heywood

Thanx for that I hadn't spotted it - maybe her maiden name was Hart? and that where it comes from. I am leaning towards the fact its the same Frederick

I will order the certificate thanx Wozzle - least it will clear this up. Marys maiden name was Bates - her first husband died young

Eccleshall maybe forever a mystery lol

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