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Topic: Has anyone ever heard of Oakengate? (Read 245 times)
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Bellejazz
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I'm helping (well trying to help) my Husband out with his tree, sadly his Dad passed away a couple of years ago and there are quite a few loose ends family history wise. It doesn't help that we are in remote outback Australia and the internet is basically our main source of info.
Anyway I am trying to make some inroads on his Grandmother Doris Biggs (b 1908, Hemsworth, Yorkshire), we know her fathers name was Thomas but we don't know her mothers name. I think I have found some census entries that could be Thomas and family but I'm not entirely sure.
I found a Thomas in 1901, in Hemsworth, aged 14, with parents Sarah & Cornelius, (my Hubby's Dad's middle name was Cornelius) so I am pretty sure it is likely that this is Doris's Dad. Then on that same family entry for Cornelius (who would be Doris's grandad) it says he was born in Broseley, Shropshire in about 1866.
On the 1891 Census I have found them again (same wife kids etc) but this time it says Cornelius was born in Oakengate, Shropshire in about 1865.
Going back to the 1881 census there is only 1 Cornelius that was born in Shropshire but this time it says he was born in Madeley, Shropshire in about 1863.
Now I checked google maps and found that Madeley and Broseley are only about 1.5 miles apart, but the only Oakengate I can find is in Lancashire!
Does anyone know of an Oakengate in Shropshire?
Do you think these census entries are the same family?
Could I have been so lucky to have managed to add 2 generations on to Hubby's family tree with one quick look through the census?
What do you think?
- Belinda.
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Gadget
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Hi 
It was in the Wellington Registration District:
Click for Map
Gadget
PS - I used to go through it years ago on the old A5 
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avm228
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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In 1871 he's with parents in Broseley as Corhealous Biggs - his birthplace given as "Madley". RG10/2757 folio 35 p24
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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avm228
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Birth:
Cornelius BIGGS Sep 1863 Madeley 6a 567
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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avm228
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I would think the two earliest censuses - 1871 and 1881 - are most likely to be reliable for the birthplace, as the information would have been given by his parents. In both cases it was given as Madeley.
And, as Gadget says, if he had been born in Oakengates he would have been registered in Wellington district rather than Madeley.
I think they surely must all be the same person, though.
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Stumped!
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Possible marriage of Cornelius: Q4 1883 Walsall 6b/1065 to Sarah Jane Jeffries.
Possible birth of Sarah Jane : Q2 1867 Walsall 6b/655
Peter
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