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julie64
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William King Crump and Sydenhams, Witney
« on: Monday 25 February 08 16:58 GMT (UK) »

Hi All

I am looking for any information on William King Crump who was both the executor on a Will for one of my ancestors Charles Brooks (an ironmonger from Witney who died 1836) and a witness at another of my ancestor's marriage.  He was the brother-in-law of Charles Brooks (married to his sister I assume) and I'm interested in finding out about his line of business/occupation.  I'd be really grateful if someone could find him for me on the 1841 or any subsequent census, or details of his marriage.  I understand the term 'brother-in-law' could also have meant 'step brother' at that time?

Kindest Regards
Julie
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Re: William King Crump, Witney
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 February 08 17:05 GMT (UK) »

Lots of William Crumps but none in Oxford on the 1841/51
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Re: William King Crump, Witney
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 February 08 17:09 GMT (UK) »

There is an 1841 entry for Witney - indexed as CRUSSEP I have checked the image but could not say for sure that the surname is Crump but think it's a likelier bet than Crussep

The address was High St he was aged 40 and was an ironmonger.  No wife listed but 3 children

Catherine 15
Martha 14
Mary 11
Everybody b in county

Here's why I couldn't find him on the 1851

freebmd deaths

William King Crump June qtr 1848 Witney  Volume: 16 Page: 106


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Re: William King Crump, Witney
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 February 08 17:38 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that Carole!

I used to be able to look all this stuff up myself but I  let my Ancestry subscription lapse last year when I thought I'd found just about everything I was going to need - I do miss it now though!

Regards, Julie
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Lancs/Ireland: Armstrong Aspinall Billingham Burchall Burke Doyle Littler Wareing
Ox: Brookes Nelson Pinfold Riley
Staffs/Shrops/Cheshire: Beeston Bull Durber Gater Massey Walker
Abergavenny:  Cobner Williams

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Re: William King Crump, Witney
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 February 08 21:31 GMT (UK) »

from OFHS Witney prs

marriages
15 Mar 1823    CRUMP William King b. of St.Andrews Holborn London
                     SYDENHAM Catherine Lucas sp.
                     wit: Edward Batts, Martha Sydenham, Frances Jones

burials
31 May 1836 CRUMP Catherine Lucas (42)
26 Jun 1848 CRUMP William King  (50)

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Re: William King Crump, Witney
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 February 08 22:57 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Myfi!

My Charles Brooks was married to Ann Sydenham so I assume she and Catherine were sisters - that explains how the two were brothers-in-law.

Thanks for this information, it is very much appreciated.  I don't suppose you could shed any light on the death of Ann Brooks, formerly Sydenham?  I believe she died prior to 1836 as there is no mention of her in her husband's will.

Regards, Julie
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Ox: Brookes Nelson Pinfold Riley
Staffs/Shrops/Cheshire: Beeston Bull Durber Gater Massey Walker
Abergavenny:  Cobner Williams

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Re: William King Crump, Witney
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 09:54 GMT (UK) »

Witney St. Mary

burials

11 Oct 1822 BROOKS Ann (44)

7 Jun 1836 BROOKS Charles (60)

marriages
6 Nov 1802 by licence
Charles BROOKS
Ann SYDENHAM
wit: Hannah Smith, Thomas Williams

baptisms
all children of Humphrey & Anne SYDENHAM
7 Aug 1782 Anne
5 Aug 1783 John Pudsey
20 May 1787 George
19 Jul 1789 Harriott
4 Apr 1794 Catherine Lucas
4 Apr 1794 Mary  (the prs don't say whether twins or not)

a couple more SYDENHAM baptisms
20 Feb 1785 Charles  son of Thomas & Elizabeth
2 Sep 1801  Talant  son of Ann


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Re: William King Crump, Witney
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 11:03 GMT (UK) »

Thanks again Myfi!

I had found an Ann Lucas Sydenham born in London in 1793 to parents John & Kitty, but she could not have been mine as she was too young ... it does seem strange that this one should have the same middle name as Catherine Lucas Sydenham though.

I assume you didn't find any trace of Martha Sydenham, who I had assumed was another sister?

Regards, Julie
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Lancs/Ireland: Armstrong Aspinall Billingham Burchall Burke Doyle Littler Wareing
Ox: Brookes Nelson Pinfold Riley
Staffs/Shrops/Cheshire: Beeston Bull Durber Gater Massey Walker
Abergavenny:  Cobner Williams

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Re: William King Crump and Sydenhams, Witney
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 13:21 GMT (UK) »

OOOPs Embarrassed Embarrassed

sorry Julie, ...was in a bit of a rush ....dentist appointment


16 Dec 1795 Martha Collier SYDENHAM dau of Humphrey & Anne



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Re: William King Crump and Sydenhams, Witney
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 13:26 GMT (UK) »


marriage

1 Feb 1825 by licence
PEAD James  b.  Burford
SYDENHAM Martha Collier  sp.
wit: H.K. Crump, C.L. Crump
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Re: William King Crump and Sydenhams, Witney
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 14:49 GMT (UK) »

Thanks again Myfi

This really is much appreciated.

Hope everything went well at the dentists Grin.

Regards Julie
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WHERE ARE YOU BEFORE 1851 TAMAR LITTLER?!

Staffs (Audley) Shrops (Market Drayton) Lancs(Golborne, Ashton in Makerfield) Oxfordshire (Banbury, Neithrop, Gt Tew, Witney) Monmouthshire (Abergavenny)

Lancs/Ireland: Armstrong Aspinall Billingham Burchall Burke Doyle Littler Wareing
Ox: Brookes Nelson Pinfold Riley
Staffs/Shrops/Cheshire: Beeston Bull Durber Gater Massey Walker
Abergavenny:  Cobner Williams

Any census information in this post is Crown Copyright  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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