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niglor
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Late last year I found that I may have had a gt Uncle Id never been told about!
Ive now found another! Same mothers maiden name and same father!
Need to know what happend to Geoffrey Hilton born 1920 Prestwich. Did he die soon after birth or did he live or is still alive maybe!
Any info be greatly appreciated
Niglor.
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MancsMan
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Hi Niglor
Can't help directly on this question, but my mum was a Hilton from Prestwich. I have gone back to about 1810 so far with my Hilton line in Prestwich.
Who were his parents? etc
I have a few siblings of John Hilton 1810 which I have done no research on, so maybe one day we might get a tie in.
regards
Ken
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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester Millington-Manchester, Birmingham Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle. Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester Smith-Manchester Carey - Manchester Cotterell - Lambeth, London Fletcher-Middleton, Manchester Capper - Manchester Census info is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MancsMan
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Just asked my mum if the name rings a bell, she does not recall that name being said
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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester Millington-Manchester, Birmingham Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle. Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester Smith-Manchester Carey - Manchester Cotterell - Lambeth, London Fletcher-Middleton, Manchester Capper - Manchester Census info is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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niglor
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Thanks Kenhar. This Geoffrey Hilton's parents are listed as Hilton and mother's maiden name is Field.
As Ive only found one Hilton married to a Field in Prestwich I presume that Geoffrey is their son!
Thing is- like the other Hilton I found last year (same parents) its too much of a coincidence both having the same names of my gt grandparents! My grandad NEVER ever mentioned that he had 2 other brothers at all!! Even my Aunt says its got to be the same people-big shock to her and my dad mind you!
I have a couple of John Hilton's in my tree my dad is the latest. My earliest is from abt 1821 and I have another in 1838. Im sure the Hilton's will all connect up somewhere someday!
Niglor
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suzard
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There is this death
Geoffrey Hilton
Died Oct 2004
age 85
born 12 jun 1919
Blackpool
C18D 147
I have looked on complete index and cannot find a birth reg jun qtr or Sept qtr 1919 - only "your" geoffrey Jun qtr 1920
Could this death reg be that of Your geoffrey -and he thought he was a year older -often happens??
Could someone check the complete index births 1919 -to check that I haven't missed Geoffrey of the death reg?
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MancsMan
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Hi niglor
With the exception of a few of these, they were all born in Prestwich - you see an that match?
All have kinship to John Hilton 1810
Hilton, Albert 1911 Great-grandson
Hilton, Beatrice May 1881 Granddaughter
Hilton, Dorothy Ann 1937 2nd great-granddaughter
Hilton, Emma 1869 Granddaughter
Hilton, Florence 1877 Granddaughter
Hilton, James 1843 Son
Hilton, Janet Barbara 1966 3rd great-granddaughter
Hilton, John 1810 Self
Hilton, John R 1962 3rd great-grandson
Hilton, Jonathan 1850 Son
Hilton, Mabel Anne 1890 Granddaughter
Hilton, Mary Ann 1865 Granddaughter
Hilton, Patricia Victoria Abt. 1940 2nd great-granddaughter
Hilton, Peter 1833 Son
Hilton, Robert Alan 26 Dec 1939 2nd great-grandson
Hilton, Thomas 1837 Son
Hilton, William 1842 Son
Hilton, William Robert 22 Dec 1873 Grandson
Regards
ken
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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester Millington-Manchester, Birmingham Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle. Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester Smith-Manchester Carey - Manchester Cotterell - Lambeth, London Fletcher-Middleton, Manchester Capper - Manchester Census info is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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LizzieW
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Hi Niglor
As you don't give the year of your grandad's birth, is it possible that he was much younger than the newly found brothers who might have fallen out with their parents and moved away?
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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niglor
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Hi Lizzie,
My grandad was born in 1909 so these brothers(?) were younger than him. He had an older brother called Howard who I can remember.
Believe it or not but Ive just found another brother Harold born in 1921 to same Field/Hilton! I found this on the BMD. Getting beyond a joke I can tell you as we've not heard of any of these brothers 
You may be right about them falling out with the family though. Grandad did tell dad that he had a very rough childhood.
So my grandad had 3 brothers I have never heard mentioned. He had one brother called Howard who was a bit older than him. His father Arthur also had children from a previous marriage! Arthur died in 1924 - of exhaustion I should imagine having all these children!
I'd just like to know what became of the 3 Ive just found - John b 1912-died 1985 and Geoffrey and Harold.
I don't think that the Geoffrey found b Blackpool is the same one I have though.
Kenhar- Sorry but none of your Hilton's are in my tree- but you never know if they will crop up at a later date!
Hope someone can help me with this mystery anyway!
Niglor
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Aulus
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I don't think that the Geoffrey found b Blackpool is the same one I have though.
I think the one mentioned above by Suzard is died Blackpool, not born there.
I wonder if it's your grandad who fell out with his father and younger brothers?
It's not easy to trace 20th century relatives that nobody in the family knows about (and in general, it's much easier going backwards up your tree than forwards). I think your best bet would be to look for and buy death certificates. If they have spouse names on them, then that might help you go backwards, but if you know where they died and where they were resident when they died, you could try writing to local newspapers with pleas to their readers for information.
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens Marylebone & Sussex: Cole London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman Bowland: Marsden, Noble Shropshire: Guest Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
This looks like Geoffrey and Harold,
Deaths
Geoffrey HILTON age: 0 Jun Q 1920 Prestwich 8d 343
Harold HILTON age: 0 Sep Q 1921 Prestwich 8d 275
Maybe these babies were never mentioned after their deaths, at age 11-12 your Grandfather may not have known about them at all.
Regards
Daisy
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niglor
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Thanks Daisy you're a star!!! 
Didn't like to think that grandad had fallen out with 3 brothers!!
Like you said he probably never even knew that she'd had them. Mind you she was 49/50 when she gave birth to them so that could've been why they died.
So gt grandad was still knocking em out way into his 70s ha!ha! 5 from his first marriage then another 5 in the second one!
Know that the other brother John died in 1985 but don't know anything about him. Perhaps its best to not know?
Niglor
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Aulus
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The black sheep: Florence Stevenson née Hampson
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So gt grandad was still knocking em out way into his 70s ha!ha! 5 from his first marriage then another 5 in the second one!
No television back then
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens Marylebone & Sussex: Cole London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman Bowland: Marsden, Noble Shropshire: Guest Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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