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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #30 on: Friday 29 February 08 17:22 GMT (UK) »

With mother as COWDEN, the following children show for Robert Fraser and Margaret:

1. JOHN FRASER  Christening: 01 NOV 1818 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
2. CATHARINE FRASER Christening: 16 JUN 1822 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
4. JOHN FRASER Christening: 25 JUN 1820 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #31 on: Friday 29 February 08 17:25 GMT (UK) »

Lots of variations on this surname  Roll Eyes This looks a possible for Margaret's parents' marriage:

16/12/1775   CAUDON   WILLIAM   CATHERINE JACK/FR508   M   Lochwinnoch   /RENFREW   570/ 0020 0080
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #32 on: Friday 29 February 08 17:29 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Monica

We've got this from the main thread that I posted  Smiley

I don't want to go too far on Margaret Cowden/Couden. Trying to keep the chart tidy but will add them when I've got the McNabs Smiley

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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #33 on: Friday 29 February 08 17:36 GMT (UK) »

New chart



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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #34 on: Friday 29 February 08 17:42 GMT (UK) »

back to the McNabs

Peter McNab and Janet McCuaig (Duncan's parents) m. 25 Jan 1834, Oa, Islay, Argyll
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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #35 on: Friday 29 February 08 17:44 GMT (UK) »

This looks like a possible for Peter's bpt:

Kildalton, Argyll 22 Oct 1806. Parents - Duncan McNabb and J  Undecided

I'll check it out more thoroughly later  Smiley
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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #36 on: Friday 29 February 08 17:57 GMT (UK) »

This is the best fit for  Peter and Janet in 1851:

Livabass, Kildalton
546 ED 1 Page 2

Peter McNab, 40, farmer, b. Oa, Argyll
Janet, 32, b. Oa
Duncan McAlister, 26, visitor, ag lab, b. Kilchoman, Argyll
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« Reply #37 on: Friday 29 February 08 18:36 GMT (UK) »

With my concern about Robert Fraser's mother's maiden name. I forgot to mention that Agnes McCrae was 31 when she married Robert in 1855. She was a widow, second marriage and had 1 live child and 3 dead  Undecided

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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #38 on: Friday 29 February 08 20:40 GMT (UK) »

The McNabs in 1841:

Cragabuss, Oa, Islay, Argyll

Peter McNab, 30-34, ag lab
Jannet, 30-34,
Duncan, 4,
Jannet, 2
Catherine, 4 mths,

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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #39 on: Friday 29 February 08 20:50 GMT (UK) »

The Peter MacNabb bpt Killdalton 22 Oct 1806 to Duncan MacNabb and 'J' appears the only one that fits the census info.

Who is 'J'?

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« Reply #40 on: Friday 29 February 08 20:54 GMT (UK) »

I've found quite a few births, Kildalton, to Duncan Macbnab - all with no wife mentioned except Peter's bpt.

Marriages for a Duncan around this time in Kildalton:

16 Jan 1796 to  Mary Fletcher
1 Sept 1798 to Issabell MacNabb
14 Marvh 1802 to Catherine McCuaig


Given that Peter and Janet's second daughter was Catherine, I would put forward the probability that his mother was Catherine McCuaig and the 'J' was reall a 'C'  Undecided

I think it's pencil in time.

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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #41 on: Friday 29 February 08 21:07 GMT (UK) »

Hi Annette

I've been on this line most of the day and I'm going to take a break for a while. If you'd like to continue searching these are the sites that I've used:

www. scotlandspeople.gov.uk
www.familysearch.org

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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 01 March 08 08:20 GMT (UK) »

Children of Peter McNab and Janet McCuaig/McCuay

5 Mar 1835 John
6 Aug 1836 Duncan
1 Dec 1838 Janet
5 Dec 1840 Cathrine
4 Oct 1843 Archibald
4 Oct 1846 Ronald

All Oa.

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« Reply #43 on: Saturday 01 March 08 08:35 GMT (UK) »

Janet McNab, nee McCuaig/Cuay died, Cragabuss, Kildalton & Oa, 25 Jan 1890 aged 77. Widow of Peter McMab.

Her parents are given as Henry McCuaid, farmer and Janet, m.s. Gilchrist.

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Re: John Steel born Paisley
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 01 March 08 15:12 GMT (UK) »

Last two now - the parents of Agnes McKellar (mother of Margaret McNab)

In the 1851 census, she is in High Killownan, Campbelltown
507 ED 5a page 6

William McKellar, 59, Shepherd, b. Argyll, Saddell
Agnes McCallum, 55, shepherd's wife, b. Argyll, Kilchrusland (?)
Agnes McKellar, dau,  9, scholar, b.Argyll,  Campbelltown

William and Agnes lived to a ripe old age:

William died Campbelltown in 1884, aged 94. His parents were Donald McKellar and Margaret Mc? possibly McKittson ( banns between Donald Mckellar and a Marrion McQuistan in  Campbelltown and Killean&Kilchenzie in 1794)

Agnes died Campbelltown in 1890. No parents names give. Her father was a weaver.



Children of William and Agnes -all Campbelltown bpts.

16 Sept 1823 Isabella
7 Dec 1824 Margaret
3 April 1827 Mary
20 Dec 1828 Isabella
16 Jan 1831 Dugald
14 Feb 1833 Catherine
18 Aug 1836 David
4 Sept 1841 Agnes


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