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DebbieG
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Hi Wombat 
I had a bit of a look at this one for you, and I will say I think you are right and your William/James Warren was originally William Dulston, as Romilly has pointed out he is in the 61 and 71 census's as Dulston then is seen no more (I cannot see a likely death for him either), but there is that marriage which I am sure you have seen in 1873 in Portsea reg dist. By Googleing I found a sort of transcription of it - but I fear there is a mistake on the fathers names, not sure if it is in the transcription or on the original record.
The transcription I found says
page 247 no 494 May 11 1876 William DULSTON full age bachelor Agent 57 Cumberland St
& Eliza WATKINS full age spinster Sergeant Ryde both signed
fathers Samuel WATKINS Tailor & Edward WATKINS Labourer
in the presence of Cyril P? & Eliza ?
but surely Samuel the father of William should be Samuel Dulston 
Anyway I looked at Samuel a bit further
I have found him in Oxford with wife Jane in 1851, 61, and 71 - and likely deaths for them both
Name: Jane Dulston
Birth: abt 1828
Death: Mar 1873 - Headington, Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire
Samuel died 1877 death registered Abingdon dist.
However the only marriage I could find between a Samuel Dulston & Jane was not until 1863
Samuel Dulston 1863 Oct-Nov-Dec Headington
Jane Hooper 1863 Oct-Nov-Dec Headington
Then I found a likely candidate for Samuel in the 1841 census
London St Botolph without Bishopsgate
Samuel Dulston aged 31 Tailor N
Elizabeth Dulston aged 30 Y
Elizabeth Dulston appears in the 1851 and 1861 census, and always gives her status as married, but there is no sign of her husband
So I did a quick trawl through some transcripts of Oxford city marriages and came up with
Oxford St Phillip & St James
1863 Dec 1 Samuel Dulston fa wid tailor of Plantation rd s/o Joseph boatbuilder
to
Jane Hooper fa sp of Plantation road d/o Richard bootmaker
witnessed by Edward Rawlins and Sarah Eaton
Now this is just a wild theory, but how about if William didn't know that his parents weren't married at the time of his birth and his father or someone told him at the time of his marriage, perhaps he was ashamed or angry enough to change his name to distance himself from the family? like I said just an idea
Debbie
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Romilly
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Hi - I have just realised that I can't find any of the children under the name Dulston after 1871, so did they all change? have you found any of them?
Debbie
All of the children are named WARREN, - father's name William James Warren/mother Eliza Warren, née Watkins.
i. William Edward WARREN was born on 13 August 1876 in Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England.
ii. Richard Arthur WARREN was born in 1878 in Nottingham, England and died in 1884 in Croydon, , Surrey, England at age 6.
iii. Ernest Henry WARREN. Ernest married Amy Eliza DUFFIN on 7 October 1899 in Deptford, London, England.
iv. Florence WARREN was born about 1888 in Croydon, , Surrey, England.
v. Mabel WARREN was born about 1890 in Croydon, , Surrey, England.
vi. Maud WARREN was born about 1891 in Croydon, , Surrey, England.
vii. Daisy WARREN was born about 1893 in Croydon, , Surrey, England.
On the 1881/1891 and 1901 Census he gives his names as just James Warren, (Insurance Agent) born St Giles, Oxford 1856.
If William Dulston/Warren are one & the same person...I have no idea why he changed his name!!! All I can think of is, - would it have to be done by deed poll, or could you just change it at will?
Romilly.
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Romilly
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Hi - sorry didn't make myself clear, I didn't mean William/Jame's children I meant his brothers and sisters Joseph b 1852 Edward b 1859 Emma b 1861 (she may have died) Harry b 1863 Arthur b 1865 - I think there were some others who died as infants I don't think you would need to change name by deed poll, I have a feeling all that was required was a public statement that in future I wish to be known as XXX Debbie
Its very strange...I can't find any of them on Ancestry after 1871...
Romilly 
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Romilly
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OOO - I think I may have just found Arthur Alfred born 1864, listed as WARREN In 1891 in Romford Essex, Arthur A Warren H M aged 28 Insurance assitant supervisor for the prudential life insurance born Oxford Oxfordshire Annie Warren W M aged 29 born Essex St Wackley? so it is starting to tie up nicely Debbie
Gosh...well done Debbie!!! (The Insurance bit clinches it for me...William James Warren worked for The Pearl Assurance Company).
Just found this snippet about name changes:
'Under English Common Law, one could change one's name at any time, as long as the intent was not to hide from the law. In order to change your name, you only had to start using a new name. Everything else is merely to prove the name change has taken place. This is generally true in most former colonies, as well'.
Romilly
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