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Ann Varney born Mentmore about 1815. 1851 census living Stowe, Bucks and married to Samuel Hickford (Heckford) born about 1803 Heath and Reach, Beds. 1861 census living Leighton Buzzard. A son born 1856 Leighton Buzzard bap All Saints 30.8.1857. There is a marriage for Ann Varney to Samuel Hickford, Varney spelt Vanney, but possibily the same person.
Would like if possible please information on census returns for 1851/61.
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Carol
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Hello Carole
1851 Census living Dadford?? Stowe Bucks
Charlotte Adams Head Widow aged 63 In receipt of Parish Relief B Stowe
Ann Varney Dau Widow " 36 " " " "
George Adams Grandson " 18 Ag Lab
1861 Census living Back Lane/Waterhouse, Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Samuel Heckford Head Aged 54 Journeyman/Butcher B Heath & Reach Bedf
Ann " Wife 46 Plain needle comber B Mentmore
Joan or Jean Dau 18 Drop maker B Leighton Buzzard
Amy Dau 15 plain needle worker " "
Sarah Ann Dau 10 Scholar "
Frederick Son 4 "
Hope this is correct, Joan or Jean could even be Jane!!!
Do you wish me to check anything else. Obviously Ann's maiden name was Adams. Have you her two marriage details? Was the George Adams grandson in 1851 Anns illigitimate son I wonder.
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Pam
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Pam
Thanks for your reply. The 1861 census is certainly the family I'm looking for. Don't think the 1851 is them, as Ann Heckford maiden name was Varney born Mentmore. Would you be so kind as to look for Samuel in 1871 census, I beleive Ann died1865 Bedford. Ann married Samuel 1835.
Carol
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HO107/1755
Parratts Piece, Leighton Buzzard
Saml Hickford, 44, butcher journeyman,b Heath & Read (?), Beds
Ann H, 36, straw bonnet sewer, b Mentmore
Mary H, 14, dau, straw bonnet sewer, b brickhill
Harry H, 11, son, straw cutter, b Leighton
Wm H, 9, son, errand boy, b Leighton
Jane H, 7, dau, b Leighton
Amy H, 5, dau, b Leighton
Sarah H, 4m, dau, b Leighton
Richard
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1871
Samuel Hickford Widower aged 65 Butcher Born Heath and Reach
in Union Workhouse Leighton Buzzard.
This probably will not be of use
1841 census
George Varney aged 35 Farmer Born Bucks Mentmore
Ann " 30 "
William " 2 "
George " 1 Month "
plus
Henrietta Hitchcock 15 "
All at High Street Mentmore.
Pam
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Hello Carol
Its me again
on BMD a Death for Ann Heckford Dec qtr 1865 Leighton Buzzard Ref 3b 273
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Hi Pam
Hello Pam
I also have Ann's death 1865, thanks.
Samuel is now in the workhouse 1871. Wonder what happened to the children?
The George and Ann Varney 1841 census is of the same family, but that Ann was a 'Fowler' before marriage. Too many Ann's ,Sarah's, William's and George's in this family.
Thanks for your help
Carol
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Richard
Thank you for your information regarding Hickford family.
Carol
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regarding children in 1871 possibles as follows
Amy Heckford aged 25 Domestic Servant Born Leighton Buzzard
Sarah Ann " " 20 " "
Both at st Margarets Street, Rochester Kent with the McNamara Family
Only Frederick I could see
Frederick Hickford aged 14 Lodger at Enfield Middlesex.
Pam
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Hi Pam
Thank you so much, thats brilliant. Would it be too much to ask for the names and address of where the children are? Any time, no rush.
Carol
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1871 Info on Children
1871 Ref RG10 1344 page 55
45 Smith's Cottages Ponders End Enfield Middlesex There is something written above Smith's Cottages could be Independent??
James Smith Head Marr 28 Occup Machine??? Born Scotland Arbroath
Jane " Wife 32 " Essex Barking
Edward " Son 1 " "
Edward  ? Lodger 26 " Carpenter? ??
FREDERICK HICKFORD Lodger 16 J....Worker ? " Essex Barking
Jane could be Fredericks Sister, remember 1861 Census Samuel and family there was a Jane/Jean/Joan query.
1871 Ref RG10 902 Page 99 120 St Margarets St?? Rochester Kent
John McNamara Head Marr 42 Proprietor ?? B London
Sarah " Wife 34 B Yorks Sheffield
Arthur " Son 9 " "
Agnes " Dau 8 " "
Ann Mary " " 3Months Kent Rochester
Ann Sawyer?? Dom Serv 42 Lincs Winterton
Kate A ? " " 27 Ireland
AMY HECKFORD " " 25 Beds Leighton B
SARAH HECKFORD " " 20 " "
Looks OK, Jane and Fredericks Birthplace I know is the only problem
Pam
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Pam
Again, thanks for the census information. The 1871 census for Amy snd Sarah Hickford - yes. 1871 for Frederick age more or less right, but I took it a stage further on Family Search 1881 census, an Edward James Smith born Barking Essex is with his grandmother Elizabeth Melvin, then on free BDM a Jane Melvin married James Smith West Ham 1868. So I think that eliminates Jane being Jane Hickford. Looking at some notes I took from Ancestry on Thursday it says Frederick Hickford went to USA 1871 so will have to explore that avenue. Seeing just 48 hours ago I had no idea what had happened to Ann Varney, I think, with everyones help, I've achieved so much.
Thanks to you Pam and others that have contributed.
Best wishes
Carol
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