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Brie
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Re: Where or What is Camlin?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 30 August 08 10:25 UTC (UK) »
Hello Abbeyview,

It does look as if it is the same family and I will e-mail you personally with the information I have. It won't be immediately as I am at work and will have to dig out all the stuff and my filing system leaves a lot to be desired. From what I can see your Mary was my gggg grandfather's cousin so our ggggg grandfathers were one and the same.

However, as Aghadowey says the IGI entries are submitted ones and there are some that I looked at in relation to the Irwins that seemed a bit odd - an 80 year old father for instance - possible but unlikely. But on the other hand there are surnames of women who apparently married into the family that continued in later generations of my branch of the family. I do know that my family came from Camlin as I have a letter written by my ggg grandfather which clearly states that. However, how to proceed from there is difficult. I have contacted the local library as to where records would be kept but haven't received a reply. So at the moment at an impasse.

Brie
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Re: Where or What is Camlin?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 30 August 08 21:24 UTC (UK) »
there's a town callend 'Camolin' near Gorey in Co. Wexford -  they way its spoken locally it very nearly sounds like Camlin - the 'O' is almost skipped over.


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Re: Where or What is Camlin?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 01 November 08 20:54 UTC (UK) »
Hi Brie (and others)
If Mary Irwin is a cousin then the common ancestors seem to be John Irwin 1716-91 and his 2nd wife Rebecca Phibbs (unless you descend from his first  wife whom IGI gives as Ann Knott.   Which of their childen do you descend from?
I agree that the fathers give do seem to be old when their children were born but in their 40's (I didn't see one in his 80's !).
The Irwins do appear as quite substantial  landowners in Griffith's valuation
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Brie
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Re: Where or What is Camlin?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 02 November 08 12:28 UTC (UK) »
Hi Abbeyview,

The furthest I have got back to with definite documentation is William Irwin b Ireland 1821.

He names his father as William Phibbs Irwin of Camlin. Because of this I think William Phibbs Irwin is likely to be William Irwin b c1768, son of the John Irwin you mention and Rebecca Phibbs as on the IGI. This is further enforced as there is an older brother called Harloe which is a family forename for boys. However, these are only submitted records and I have yet to find where the originals are held or from where this information originated.

My next move is to check out a marriage on the IGI of William Philbe Irwin to an Ann Kelly. I have a lot of circumstantial evidence that this may be my man but have yet to find where or how to view the original document. I live in hope (perhaps rather optimistically) that this may give me some clues.

I wil let you know if I find anything new.

Happy hunting
Brie
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Re: Where or What is Camlin?
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 02 November 08 12:32 UTC (UK) »
Abbeyview,

I forgot to add that the 80 year old new father wasn't on the IGI but on someone's tree on Ancestry. Sorry I was unclear. I think it is likely that William's father, William Phibbs did have him in is 40s. I also have reason to believe his wife was a bit younger and re-married after his death. However, that is still 'work in progress'.

Cheers
Brie
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