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Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« on: Friday 29 February 08 17:54 GMT (UK) »

I know that Carry Marshall was (B) June 1850 Cambridge but I cannot find her (M) only a Caroline Marshall Chesterton Jun. 1871. is it possible to find the name of her Father without having to purchase the (M) cert.? Thank you
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 February 08 18:24 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Unless you know the name of the church where they were married it is not possible to obtain the details you want from parish records.    The only other alternative is to buy a copy of their marriage certificate 

Caroline was frequently shortened to Carrie and Chesterton is in Cambridge so it's a good bet

She married Peter Jakes according to the 1881 census 

284 Dunlop St Attercliffe Cum Darnall York

Peter JAKES  35   b Willingham Cambridge Farm Lab 
Caroline  30   b Cottunham Cambridge
Clara  b Cottunham
Tom 6   b Handsworth York
Emma 1   b Richmond York
George ELVIDGE   Boarder 50     
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 February 08 18:40 GMT (UK) »

Her father was Alfred Marshal age 29 Gardener born Trumpington, Cambridge according to 1851 census
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 February 08 18:44 GMT (UK) »

There were at least 3 marriages of a caroline marshall at Chesterton: 1871, 1879, 1888.  Do you know roughly when she married? 
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 March 08 15:36 GMT (UK) »

Hi Moors

It's not the 6/11/1879 one, Caroline bn 1860 she married Frederick W Crisp (my gt grandparents) - father George Frederick Harris Marshall and is your Carry's first cousin. The 1880 one is her aunt Caroline marrying James Haslop.

I have not found Carry on census after 1871 when she was still at home with father William ALFRED Marshall (bapt Trumpington 1821) and mother Hannah (Baines)

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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 09:46 GMT (UK) »

Thank you for the replies.
I know that Carry Marshall (B) June 1850 Cambridge 14/9
I know she is NOT on the 1851 cenus.
The Marshalls are related to me via my Grandmother.
I have the census of 1851/61 etc. so my first query was why was she not on the 1851 census? and who did she (M)? in 1861 when she was living with the family in Cambridge/
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 11:05 GMT (UK) »

 Why have you discounted the Carry age 10 months born Cambridge that Medhist found living in Cambridge St Andrew the Less in 1851?

I must confess I find it difficult to foillow what you know about her. Who did she marry, as presumably you must have this detail if she was connected to your grandmother? Have you found her in later censuses? How do you know the Carry in June 1850 is yours?

What do you mean when you say "who did she (M)? in 1861 when she was living with the family in Cambridge" In 1861 she was only 11 so too young to marry if that is what (M) means.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 14:37 GMT (UK) »

Hi David

I am researching this family as well though they are not my direct line. I think Moors may have missed Carry on the 1851 as she is on the next page, but she is living with her parents.

I have her on the 1851/61 and 1871 census but after that she dissapears, so we imagine she has probably married. I have tried a few options on variants of Carry/Caroline without any luck so would also be greatfull for assistance in finding her.

Smiley Smiley
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Moors I have sent you a P.M.
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 15:21 GMT (UK) »

Hi Rosie

Which one is her in 1871?

Later - OK, found her as Marthall!

Regards

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 15:56 GMT (UK) »

1871
Jesus? lane
Cambridge
Alfred Marshall Head M 49 Gardener Trumpington Cambs
Hannah wife 48 Upton Lincs
henry son 22 commercial clerk Cambridge
Carry daughter 20 dressmaker Cambridge
Alfred geo son 19 grocer's asst Cambridge
hannah daughter 9 scholar Cambridge
RG10 1589 124 27

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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 16:11 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I know that Carry/Caroline etc are variations but just for information she was baptised Carry, though I have to confess it was when she was 7. According to baptism she was born 3rd May 1850 as per familyhistoryonline.

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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 21:44 GMT (UK) »

Carry's younger brother Alfred moved around a bit - he was in Stony Stratford Bucks in 1881 and Pottersbury Northants in 1891, but there's no sign of Carry in any census after 1871 that I can find.
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 09:56 GMT (UK) »

Thank you for all the info. obviously Carry Marshall (M) under different spelling or (D).
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »

Or emigrated (E)?
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Marriage Carry Marshall about 1871 Cambridge please
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 08 March 08 16:43 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for your help David, I'll carry on searching abroad.

Cheesy
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