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Re: 1861/71 Census look up please
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 March 08 18:51 GMT (UK) »
cannot find andrew anywhere in 1851
there is one in bolton occ. coalman b. 1833 but that is the only one i can find
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Re: 1861/71 Census look up please
« Reply #16 on: Monday 03 March 08 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Wozzle

Thank you very much  for searching for Andrew ASHCROFT for me.  I have ordered the Marriage Certificate of Sarah DRIVER and Andrew ASHCROFT today.  This will give more information about him hopefully.  You have been so very helpful in breaking down brick walls for me with this research.

Thank you so much.

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« Reply #17 on: Monday 03 March 08 19:18 GMT (UK) »
glad to be of help
if you don't mind when you receive the cert would you let us know what it says.
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Wozzle

I was going to do that, as You deserve to know after all the help I have received from you!!

Kind regards
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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 08 March 08 12:36 GMT (UK) »
I have today just received the Marriage Certificate of the following couple:-
at The Parish Church, Birkenhead on 30 August 1857

Andrew ASHCROFT full age, Bachelor, Bolt Maker - Residence Birkenhead son of Thomas ASHCROFT, Mechanic
To:
Sarah DRIVER aged 18, Spinster (Residence at time of marriage) was blank, daughter of William DRIVER, Black Smith.

Both signed the Register and Benjamin DRIVER and Mary HOLLAND were witnesses

After Banns by  A KNOX Minister.

Many, many thanks to everyone who helped me, to find this couple.

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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 08 March 08 14:02 GMT (UK) »
ta very much for showing the info
unfortunately i still cannot find andrew in 1851
nor for that matter can i find thomas or jane.
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Re: 1861/71 Census look up please
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 08 March 08 15:01 GMT (UK) »
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It is not surprising that there is no sign of them in 1851 when I have found these!

In 1981
PRO Ref RG11    Piece 4768    Folio 52
2 Samuel Place Kingston upon Hull
Sarah becomes Sarah WALLACE aged 39  Manchester
married to Andrew WALLACE  aged 39 from Liverpool
Arthur ASHCROFT is Arthur WALLACE aged 10 from Manchester
with siblings Eliza 7 and Richard 5 both born Hull.

In Mar 1882 a Sarah ASHCROFT Marr Andrew WALLACE in Hull on Free BMD which I plan to get next.

I was looking at all the Sarah's with sons Arthur when I found it.  An Arthur ASHCROFT is nowhere to be found in the 1881 Census.

I will have to get the birth certificate of one of the 2 younger children, Eliza 7, or Richard 5 born in Hull to find out what they are registered as.


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Re: 1861/71 Census look up please
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 08 March 08 15:10 GMT (UK) »
surely in 1851 he would be still andrew ashcroft
he was married in 1857 under the name of andrew ashcroft
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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 08 March 08 16:11 GMT (UK) »
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I agree he should be with parents Thomas and Jane in 1851 census, my father's family his mother and father named Kitchen are not on the 1901 so perhaps this family of ASHCROFT were missed in 1851. 

I have paid to find my KITCHEN's from Gateshead in the 1911 census, I was delighted with it.  Sadly, my grandmother died in 1911 just after the census, so I had the address to find them, from her death certificate.

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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 08 March 08 16:45 GMT (UK) »
i have just been looking at some other posts to which i replied
on one of these  carolew replied to a thread and said that apparently quiet a few of the 1851 censuses whilst in storage received water damage and were badly damaged
maybe your families entry was amongst these
they are available on a cd. and apparently some rootschatters have got hold of them
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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 09 March 08 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wozzle

I have the 1891 Census for Yorkshire on disks and trawled through part of Hull to find Arthur ASHCROFT aged 20 or perhaps WALLACE all last evening, without success.  He might be in Myton, Hull I wonder if you would be able to find him or me? 

Thank you for the advice about the CD, regarding the 1851 Census, which I didn't know about.  I will have to find out where to get one from, I could ask on the Yorkgen list. 

Thank you very much again!!

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« Reply #26 on: Sunday 09 March 08 12:29 GMT (UK) »
1891
RG12/3939/85/30
andrew wallace age 50. b. liverpool. occ. dockside labourer. head.
sarah age 50. b. manchester. wife.
arthur age 19. b. ditto. occ. fish labourer. son.
richard age 16. b. hull. occ. fish labourer.  son.
living at ; 2,clark ----?,holy trinity,myton,hull,yorkshire.
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday 09 March 08 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Wozzle

I would have found them in the end!  Thank you for these, I have ordered the Marriage Certificate for Sarah ASHCROFT/Andrew WALLACE in 1882 and the birth of Richard WALLACE born 1876.

Thank you very much for your kindness and help yet again!

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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 16:43 GMT (UK) »
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I wonder what you think of this which I found when Googling for ASHCROFT!!

"I am researching DRIVER'S & ASHCROFT'S of Birkenhead. Andrew ASHCROFT married Sarah DRIVER 1857 Birkenhead Andrew ASHCROFT married Mary HARDMAN ( nee DODD) 1873 claiming to be a widower but his first wife was still alive living with Andrew WALLACE in Hull Andrew ASHCROFT & Sarah DRIVER had a daughter Sarah born 1864 who was my grandmother and their other children were Mary Ellen who married Robert Dean Williams of Liverpool and they emigrated to Ontario" 

The marriage certificate hasn't arrived yet of Sarah DRIVER/ASHCROFT from Hull registrars.   I have emailed the lady, but it was sent to the list in 2004.

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Re: 1861/71 Census look up please
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 18:37 GMT (UK) »
if you look at one of my previous answers to this topic
i said that the only andrew ashcroft i could find in 1851 was in bolton and he was a coalman
in 1881 there is a andrew ashcroft age 49 living in bolton occ. coal miner with wife mary
but his oldest child is john age 26. born in little lever,bolton
could this be the one that this lady was talking about and got muddled up.
really i have'nt a clue it all seems very strange
let us know what the cert says if you don't mind
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