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Abington Park Tank
« on: Sunday 02 March 08 12:27 GMT (UK) »

Ok all you old Northamptonians....A mystery...ish...

When I was a young child and playing in the park, I was always told that the mound, just up from he APH and in front of the bandstand hid a WW1 British Tank...

I have searched the web, and my books on the town...All I can find is a line drawing of one in the the book "Northamptonshire In The Great War 1914-1918" which states that "A British Tank which visited the Town to assist in raising War Loan" (sic) on page 214....

I have a posting on a WW1 forum in which somebody states that he thinks he can remember it being there in "the early 70s"

What happened?HuhHuh?

There was a story that it was buried so the Jerries couldnt use it if they invaded, and there are also stories that some 400 were distributed around the country to serve as monuments...I have seen a pic of the one in Wisbeach.....
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Re: Abington Park Tank
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 March 08 12:43 GMT (UK) »

Are you talking about the tree covered mound between the bandstand and the Wellingborough Road?  Anything on or in that mound would have been prior to the second world war.  If there is new mound between the bandstand the main gates by what used to be the APH then that was constructed after 1965.

Like you a lot of my childhood was spent in that park.  What is missing with our youth today is the Sunday parade from the bandstand, past the museum and then down to the lakes. They talk about nothing to do today.  Then, even the swings, slides and roundabouts were locked on a Sunday

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DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES CAN BE FOUND IN SURNAME INTERESTS AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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Re: Abington Park Tank
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 March 08 13:01 GMT (UK) »

Are you talking about the tree covered mound between the bandstand and the Wellingborough Road?  Anything on or in that mound would have been prior to the second world war.  If there is new mound between the bandstand the main gates by what used to be the APH then that was constructed after 1965.

Like you a lot of my childhood was spent in that park.  What is missing with our youth today is the Sunday parade from the bandstand, past the museum and then down to the lakes. They talk about nothing to do today.  Then, even the swings, slides and roundabouts were locked on a Sunday

David

Yep thats the one...the original opposite Abington Park Parade...and WW1 is the date I'm looking at....It's supposed to be a WW1 tank there...allegedly!

Another story I have is that it was buried to prevent any Jerry invaders using it...Mind you, I would have presumed that the local Home Guard would have commandeered it before that if it was still extant at that time!!!!

Always had a Gallone and avoided the Mario ice cream van as well when I was a child...last time I took the young Padawan up to Northampton, I insisted he had a Gallone...A 10yr old with taste!! He insists Gallone's are the best ice cream!!!

Shame the boats have gone from the park as well...Another case of nightmare bureaucratic Health and Safety Legislation gone mad...Still the regimental Museum is still in the park, although the old Victorian eclectic mix of exhibits have gone...

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 March 08 13:39 GMT (UK) »

I suppose that they have stopped sledging down the hill from the tower as well.  If you had a good sledge it was difficult to avoid the boating lake at the bottom of the slope.  l wonder what the history of that tower was.  It presumably was the remains of a church unless it was a folly.  That half of the park was full of mysteries like the arch that stood by itself over towards Abington Park Crescent and the stories about the wood by the large lake.

I have a vague memory of the story about the tank but if it had been there after 1945 I am sure I would have been fascinated by it as a small boy. 

Later my memory would have been blurred by the under age halves of cider purchased at the back door of the APH.
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DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES CAN BE FOUND IN SURNAME INTERESTS AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Abington Park Tank
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 March 08 11:27 GMT (UK) »

Hello Scrimnet,
                         Ref. the distribution of 400 WW1 Tanks to be used as memorials.I dont know how many are still arround . There is still one in Ashford ,Kent, Town Centre. (Although it alledgedly was gutted and an electical transformer installed inside years ago.) Might be an idea to get Tony Robinson and Time Team interested they might do a dig  at Northamtonshire  for you,
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 March 08 11:40 GMT (UK) »

It does seem a bit daft if it was buried as the local Home Guard could have made use of it...Either as a mobile unit or as a static sangar...

Ummm maybe thats why it was buried...Dug in for cammo reasons...

Time Team...That would be interesting!
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 March 08 12:17 GMT (UK) »

I am not sure that it was buried in the mound, although that is local folk law.  I suspect it stood on the mound which was specially constructed to display it.  If I remember the shape of the mound correctly it was sloped in a way which is consistent with driving a tank onto it.  I have vague memories of climbing up it and running down the slope and also of being told by my parents that this was an inappropriate thing to do on a Sunday.

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Living in Berkshire.  Origin Northampton & Milton Keynes
DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES CAN BE FOUND IN SURNAME INTERESTS AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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