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alison1970
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Hi please caould you help me look up this Birth. john fenn born coggershell essex 1822, I am hoping it will give me an insight into his parents, but have been unable to find a record of his birth anywhere.
So far this is the cenus info i am working on:
1881 cenus
Birth Year <1822>
Birthplace Coggeshall, Essex, England
Age 59
Occupation Stud Groom (Dom Servt)
Marital Status M <Married>
Head of Household John FENN
Relation Head
Disability
more full cenus: 1. Name John FENN Relationship Head Condition M Gender M Age 59 Occupation Stud Groom (Dom Servt) Birthplace Coggeshall, Essex, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
2. Name Jane FENN Relationship Wife Condition M Gender F Age 54 Occupation – Birthplace Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
3. Name Elizabeth FENN Relationship Daur Condition U Gender F Age 20 Occupation – Birthplace Stratfield Saye, Hampshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
4. Name Thomas BOSIER Relationship Servant Condition U Gender M Age 21 Occupation Helper (Dom Servt) Birthplace Stratfield Saye, Hampshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
5. Name George DORE Relationship Servant Condition U Gender M Age 22 Occupation Helper (Dom Servt) Birthplace Mortimer, Berkshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
6. Name William SEARLE Relationship Servant Condition U Gender M Age 19 Occupation Helper (Dom Servt) Birthplace Yately, Hampshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
7. Name Alfred WADE Relationship Servant Condition U Gender M Age 27 Occupation Helper Domestic Servant (Groom) Birthplace Frostendem, Suffolk, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Also know he married again in 1908 to a Sarah gosletine. this marriage was in Tendring essex.
Thank you
kind regards
Alison
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rosie99
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Hi Alison
Do you have his fathers name from his marriage certificate?
Rosie
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alison1970
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ok thanks for that, could you tell me which site you found that census on. I have been using free bmd, Ancestry co.uk and family history on line.
Thank you.
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alison1970
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thanks your a star. for some reason couldn't find it.
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dawlc
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Hi Alison
As you know he was born in Coggeshall in Essex in 1822 the easiest way to try and find his parents would be to look at the baptismal records for the parish church in Coggeshall. By 1822 (from my experience) most baptismal records are fairly legible. At this time a baptismal record would record; date of baptism, name of infant, parents names (i.e. John & Mary Smith), where they lived (in this case it would just record Coggeshall) and father's occupation.
Also if you are lucky enough to find the baptism you can then usually follow the parents through the years and find any further children they had. In 1822 most people never moved far from their village so it maybe possible to find John Fenn's parents' marriage which gives you his mother's maiden name.
Are you able to easily visit the Essex Records Office? If not (I live in Chelmsford) I often visit to fascilitate my own research, so I could look at Coggeshall's for you.
Regards
Deborah
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alison1970
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Hi Deborah
That would be brilliant if you could look it up for me please, as i am in Devon it would unfortunately be to far for me to travel.
I am so glad i have found this site, people who use it are so lovely and helpful.
Thank you
Kind regards
Alison
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alison1970
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Thank you amanda 
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dawlc
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Hi Alison
I will keep a note of your request and take it with me when I next visit the ERO. This may not be until April as I have an 81 year old mum downsizing and moving from Suffolk to Essex on 13th March, an 81 year old dad who is in residential care (Alzheimers) and three teenagers - so I'm a little busy at present!
I agree with you I've had some very helpful responses to my queries so it is nice to be of help to others.
Regards
Deborah
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alison1970
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Hi Deborah
Sounds like your gonna be very busy! Hope everything goes well with your mum's move.
I also have 2 teenagers and 1 who thinks he is, but hes only 9, So i know only two well that they are enough to keep you busy.
Thanks again that will be great, and goodluck with everything.
Regards
alison.
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alison1970
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Hi deborah
I hope you don't see this as cheeky, but was just pinging my post. Would be very grateful if you could do a look up of John fenn birth for me.
Thank you
Alison
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dawlc
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Hi Alison
Sorry but I haven't forgotten you. My mum moves into her new property this coming Thursday (3rd April) so she will be settled - well apart from being surrounded by millions of boxes! So all being well I aim to visit the ERO sometime the following week (w/b 7the April). However, as it is the two week Easter break for us here in Essex from this coming Monday I may get down to the ERO before Thursday.
I'll print off the info you've posted and take it with me. Fingers crossed after your patient wait I come back with some info for you.
Regards
Deborah
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