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1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:07 GMT (UK) »

Can someone pls lookup following Johnson family in '41 & '51 if possible:
William head b.Huh
Margaret wife b.Huh
Robert b.1826 Tarleton/Hesketh
Thomas b.1829 ditto

Also:
Christopher Sumner b?? in Tarleton
Nanny wife b.1814 Tarleton (dau of William/Margaret above). Married 1833 in Tarleton so kids??

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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:21 GMT (UK) »

1851 HO107; Piece: 2266; Folio: 623; Page: 39

3 Croft Court Preston

Christopher Sumner 43 yrs boatman
Ann 37 yrs
Jane 17 yrs power loom weaver
William Sumner 14 yrs power loom weaver
Richard 13 yrs  ditto
Margaret 10 yrs scholar
                                                  all born Tarleton
Elizabeth 7 rys scholar
John 5 yrs scholar
Hannah 2yrs
                                       youngest three born Preston
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:23 GMT (UK) »

1841

Gorse Lane Tarelton

Magret Johnson 45 b Lancs
Robert 14 Agric Lab b Lancs
Thos 12 born Lancs

 HO107 Folio 26 Page 17 Line 25.

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:32 GMT (UK) »

at the moment can't find the Sumners in 1841 at all.  Undecided
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:34 GMT (UK) »

Just noticed that on the 1841 there is an entry above Magret for a Willm Johnson age 75 Agric Lab b Lancs


Aaah, Heywood, was waiting to be impressed there cos I couldn't find them and thought you were on a roll Grin


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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:36 GMT (UK) »

I thought so too - but you know what thought did ...  Grin

Just found a possible for Margaret in 1851

HO107; Piece: 2197; Folio: 28; Page: 6
Gorse Lane
Margaret Johnson widow 59 yrs boatman's widow b Tarleton
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:43 GMT (UK) »

Well, if he was a boatman we could be on a hiding to nothing - they can be very difficult to find if they all live on the boat - seems odd.
Lots of children's names to play with as well Undecided


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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:43 GMT (UK) »

Thanks ladies.  Smiley

Witnesses to Sumner/Johnson marriage in '33 were a Richard Sumner and Esther Mayor if that helps?

Any luck with the Johnson brothers in '51? Poss marr of Thomas to Sarah Watkinson in Tarleton in '47

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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 March 08 16:55 GMT (UK) »

There are 2 Thomas Johnson's on the 1851

One born 1830 Tarleton(servant in Croston) and the other 1828


1851

 
Thomas Johnson Head 23 Agric Lab b Tarleton
Sarah Johnson wife 25 b Longton
Jane Johnson dau 3 b Hoole
Eliza Johnson dau 7 Months b Tarleton 

HO107/2197 Folio 80 Page 28
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 02 March 08 17:00 GMT (UK) »

On the 1851 there is a Robert Johnson age recorded as NK(not known) but with 30 written in above born Tarleton and living in Gorse Lane Tarleton Farm servant in the household of Richard Taylor and family. Richard is a farmer of 52 acres.

This must be Robert, I should think

HO107/ 2197 Folio 27 Page 4
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 March 08 17:08 GMT (UK) »

1861

Blackgate Road Tarleton
 
Thomas Johnson Head 34 Agric Lab b Tarleton
Sarah Johnson wife 35 b Coppull Lancs 
Jane Johnson dau 13 b Tarleton
Eliza Johnson dau 10 b Tarleton
Charlotte Johnson dau 6 b Tarleton
Mary Johnson dau 3 b Tarleton
Thomas Johnson son 1 b Tarleton 
 
RG9;/ 2763 Folio 81 Page 30

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 02 March 08 17:22 GMT (UK) »

1861 - this Guy does seem to have an age problem but there isn't another Robert Johnson born Tarleton knocking about


Bolton Street Chorley

Robert Johnson Head 30  Lab at Print Works b Tarlton Lancs
Mary Johnson wife 34 b Coppull 
Ellen Johnson dau 8 b Coppull
William Johnson son 6 b Coppull
Robert Johnson son 4 b Coppull
Margaret Johnson dau 2 b Coppull 
John Johnson son 1 month b Coppull
Ann Foy Lodger 4 Scutching machine sorter b Ireland
Patrick Foy Lodger 1 born Wigan Lancs
 
RG9;/ 3121 Folio 15 Page 24

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 02 March 08 17:34 GMT (UK) »

Are you happy that this Thomas is your man?

Onthe 1841 there are 2 Thomas Johnson's in Tarleton

One is Thomas Johnson born 1829 with mother Magret and sibling Robert.


The other is Thomas Johnson born 1827 with parents William and Charlotte.

I am a little worried that we may be following the incorrect Thomas. The Thomas we are not following has children named Ann and Richard which is disconcerting me Undecided

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 02 March 08 18:17 GMT (UK) »

Tricia,

Back to it after food.

The parents are William and Margaret, not Charlotte. I saw the Wm/Char combination on lancs-opc site but they are NOT the family I'm interested in. Wm/Mar are my 4th g grandparents through their son Wm who was born in 1820 (I have poss details for him in '41 - living with a farmer in Back Lane, Hesketh).

Ann and Richard are not names that follow through the Johnson generations, although there are a couple of them. Margaret, William, John, Thomas, Alice, Elizabeth are far more common down the lines.

The poss marr of Thomas to Sarah Watkinson - groom's father was William, labourer - could be husband of Charlotte  Undecided

The correct Thomas was baptised July 1829 - leads me to think that it was NOT him who married Sarah. So Thomas in Croston in '51 is probably the correct one. I have has a personal message which shows his sister Nanny (Ann) in Croston in '41 with I believe to be her b-i-law Richard Sumner. Does that tie in with Thomas being in Croston in '51 )  Undecided

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Re: 1841 lookup - Johnson - Tarleton
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 March 08 18:26 GMT (UK) »

am a bit bothered re Nanny in 1841- there are no children around and this Nanny is 30 yrs - born 1811 - people were usually rounded down whichw ould mean that she was 30+.
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