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amanda1968
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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 18:49 UTC (UK) »

hi terry , wonder if you could help and see if there any mi,s for oliver.they maybe in oxnan or crailing i have a name of william olipher married to a isobel herbert but there son was thomas oliver. william was born in 1676 and died 1736. any news on this family would be gratefully appreciated

thankyou mandy p.s wonder why name was spelt different any ideas


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kris47
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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 19:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Terry,
could you have a look for Ternents please.

Kris


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Coldstream Lynn
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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 20:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Terry

My friend Glen has passed on the Weatherstone information that you found. I have traced my ggg grandmother Agnes Weatherstone c1826 Stichil, in 1841, she is living with father Thomas sister Mary & brother Benjamin in Hume. She went on to marry & move to England & i've traced Benjamin throught to his death, but lost Mary after 1851 & thomas after 1841, I was hoping to find their burials or that of Thomas's wife Agnes. Perhaps we may share a relative?

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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 31 July 08 08:25 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: kris47 on Wednesday 30 July 08 19:03 UTC (UK)

Hi Terry,
could you have a look for Ternents please.

Kris

Sorry Kris no ternants in any of my Roxburghshire MI's

One in Ayton Berwickshire don't know if it's of use but here it is anyway.

Euphemia Balmer d Prenderguest 26.10.1931 aged 9yrs 11 months. Daughter of John and Isabella Ternent.
Also above Isabella d 19.10.1934 aged 50 and John Ternant d Prenderguest 7.12.1941 aged 69

Terry
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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 31 July 08 08:47 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: amanda1968 on Wednesday 30 July 08 18:49 UTC (UK)

Hi Mandy,

Here's William and Isabella in Oxnam:

Here lies Isobell Herbert spouse to William Olipher who died March 17?? aged 55 years also the above William Olipher who died 25.5.1726 aged 60years
Reverse of stone;
Also Adam Olipher their son who died 2.2.1726 aged 26 years

There are 29 Oliver/Olipher MI's in Oxnam and 6 in Crailing/Nisbet did Thomas have a wife to narrow it down or a birth date?

I will transcribe the Oliver MI's for you but will have to be done later, I'm on my way out.

I don't know about Olipher/Oliver but in Scottish surnames it says under the name Oliver that 'it spread all over the Lowlands, becoming confused at one stage with Oliphant'. So perhaps that may be the answer??

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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 31 July 08 09:48 UTC (UK) »

ty terry for your reply . i have thomas as son of william and isobel but all i have is a marriage date of 1734 to a jane knox. apparantly thoma was a tailor in cappick ? is that close to oxnan ? and jane was a servant to robert hunter in pearshaw. how would i go about looking for other siblings to adam and thomas ? once again ty for ur help


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terry hastie
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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 31 July 08 12:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mandy,

Have you tried the IGI and Scotlands People for the OPR's? I had a look and there are lots of Olivers/Oliphers in the Oxnam area. I have heard of Cappick and would be pretty sure it's close by. Oliver as you will know is a very common name in the Scottish Borders and especially in that area. Have a look on Genuki and go into Scottish Counties, Roxburghshire, Oxnam, you will see how close it is to Morebattle and Yetholm which also has many Olivers. The unfortunate thing about looking at theOPR's for Oxnam is that earlier on they tended not to give the mothers name at baptisms. My partner has Olivers in his family and I have tracked them back to about 1750ish. His 5g grandparents William Oliver/Isabel Polls were having children in Morebattle. Then Andrew Oliver his 4g's married Sarah Fair from Oxnam and they had their first two children in Oxnam before moving into Berwickshire. I have always thought that the Oxnam, Crailing, Jedburgh, Morebattle Olivers will have some kind of connection. William and Isabella Herbert had a son Adam and I did note a few Adams being born in Oxnam area.

There is and MI in Crailing for Olivers who were tailors. There is also an MI next to your William for and Adam Oliver who d 1795 and a weaver.

I'm also interested in your Isabella Herbert. That was one of my family names. My father was actually called Herbert (Heb) it was his g grandmothers maiden name. The Herberts were from Kirknewton Northumberland and came over the(very close) Border into Yetholm. Do you know where your Isabella was from? I'm only back to my 4g grandparents abt 1770's on the Herbert line.

Hope some of this helps.

Terry


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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 31 July 08 13:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Terry,

Sorry didn't say thank you in June for the info on Crailing, but I see that you mention Herbert in your last letter.

I have Herberts in my wife's tree, James and a Mary Tait.
James Herbert 1809 -1903 Yetholm m. Jane Hall 1828 Ancrum d. 1908 Yetholm.
Daughter Ellen1868,Mary 1864 Thomas 1866.

Son of Ellen, John 1894 m. Isabella Fairgrieve Lockie.

May be no connection.


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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 31 July 08 14:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Beckey,

There definately is a connection James is my 4g Uncle. His sister Mary is my 3g grandmother. I have for your James/Jane: George Hall not Herbert b abt 1859, Ellen 1862 d bfr 1868, Mary 1864, Thomas 1866 and Helen 1868. George was Jane's illigitimate son but I don't know if James was the father. I have this family in the 1871 and 1881 census that was how I found out about George.

You have the wrong information on James's parents they are infact Thomas Herbert and Mary Tait. They married 3rd Feb 1797 in Kirknewton Northumberland. I have not gotten beyond them yet.

Are you in the Scottish Borders also?

Terry


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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 31 July 08 15:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi Terry,

Sorry about the James,you are right, 1/3/1903 death Yetholm James Herbert Stone Dyker M 94 (married to Jane Hall), Thomas Herbert Gen Lab (dec0 and Mary nee Tait (dec) Cerebral Haemorrhage. Thomas Herbert son present.

Ellen married a George Pringle 1889 and he died 1890, there were 3 sons, John 1894,William 1900 and George 1900, father ?

Will look further into Hall side.

We live in York, Lockie is on my wife' side.

Barry


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terry hastie
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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 31 July 08 15:22 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: Coldstream Lynn on Wednesday 30 July 08 20:32 UTC (UK)

Hi Terry

My friend Glen has passed on the Weatherstone information that you found.

Hi Lynn,

The only Weatherstone I have is my other halfs 4g grandmother. I think she would be from Berwickshire Westruther Area b abt 1780 I am no further back than her but you may well be related. Is your Thomas the one who was married to Agnes Johnston? I see there was another 2 children other than the ones you mentioned born to them if it was, Jess 19/08/1821 and James 19/3/1819 on the IGI both C118034. Did Thomas and Agnes marry Eccles Berwickshire 3/6/1813? I just ask this because it would be possible that some of the ones in Westruther and Greenlaw could belong to you. I'll transcribe the MI's if you think they would be useful to you probably be over the weekend though.

Also if this is the correct family there is a Jessie Weatherston aged 22 in 1841 A servant at and living at Baillieknowe Stichill may be the one above!

Terry


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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 31 July 08 15:39 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: Beckey on Thursday 31 July 08 15:14 UTC (UK)

Hi Terry,

Sorry about the James,you are right, 1/3/1903 death Yetholm
Will look further into Hall side.

Barry

Hi Barry,

Have you managed to get beyond Thomas/ Mary Herbert? I managed to find 6 children for this pair and have a fair bit of info on them all. Do you have anything more. My 3g grandmother Mary James's sister never married but she had 2 illigitimate children. Mary my 2g grandmother and a son Thomas. This Thomas married his cousin Isabella Herbert daughter of William Herbert brother to your James and my Mary (3g's)

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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 31 July 08 16:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Terry,

Have very little info on Herbert side, only just started looking into it, more on Lockie.

Barry


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kris47
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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 31 July 08 17:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Terry,
thank you very much for the info.
Kris.


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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Re: MI's for Crailing & Nisbet, Oxnam, Stichill & Hume
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 31 July 08 17:57 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: amanda1968 on Thursday 31 July 08 09:48 UTC (UK)

Cappuck about 2 1/2 miles from Oxnam and Cappuck Bridge lies between the two around 2 1/4 miles from Oxnam.

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