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Re: John Southon
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 March 08 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Have you investigated the possibility that they went to Australia earlier but then came back before emigrating for good?

I haven't been able to find a marriage for John & Jane either.  Huh
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Re: John Southon
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 March 08 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Brother Stephen is married by 1851 and is still living in Capel

HO107/307/15-Stephen Southan

Im not sure whether Poppyann has these details but if you do want them Poppyann let me know and I will be happy to post full details

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Re: John Southon
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 02 March 08 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Must admit Bearkat Im beginning to think along the same lines about them having gone earlier as they are nowhere to be seen.

Im stumped!!!!

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Re: John Southon
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 02 March 08 22:17 GMT (UK) »
There are some interesting SOUTHON wills

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mrawson/extr9.html

One mentions "Stephen Southon, Henry Southon, Thomas Southon, Caleb Southon, John Southon and Gabriel Southon, the 6 sons of my late deceased son Henry"
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Re: John Southon
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 02 March 08 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Wow Bearkat that sure does make interesting reading..I suppose one idea would be that the monies that were left to them would have paid their fares to Australia Huh Huh

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Re: John Southon
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 02 March 08 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks bearcat, yes that is my Southon family. I knew that Henry was the father of Stephen father to the boys who went to Australia. Poppyann
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Re: John Southon
« Reply #21 on: Monday 03 March 08 07:01 GMT (UK) »
I somehow agree that they probably weren't in the country then ..........

Thomas age 25 together with Caleb 18 (farmers from England) arriving in New York 13 Mar 1846 on the "Prince Albert" from London

John age 21 (wheelwright) together with Caleb age 20 (wheelwright) arriving in New York 13 Nov 1847 on the "Rob Peel" from London.

Could this be the same family ie. were they back and forth to the US with their new found wealth before going to Australia?

Poppyann, do you know anything else about Jane and in what order were they listed on the passenger lists - I assume it would be husband, wife etc.. Huh

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Re: John Southon
« Reply #22 on: Monday 03 March 08 07:40 GMT (UK) »
That's an interesting find. Cheesy

Looks as if they decided the prospects were better in Australia than America!
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Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
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Re: John Southon
« Reply #23 on: Monday 03 March 08 12:16 GMT (UK) »
casalguidi, I know from information received that John did marry a Jane, on the ship list the order is Gabriel, Jane, John and Thomas.poppyann
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Re: John Southon
« Reply #24 on: Monday 03 March 08 12:17 GMT (UK) »
bearcat thank you for your information very interesting isn't it.poppyann
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« Reply #25 on: Monday 03 March 08 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Ive just noticed that Caleb stayed in the US as ive just found him in the 1870 New York cencus with wife Elizabeth and daughter Maria

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Re: John Southon
« Reply #26 on: Monday 03 March 08 12:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sisterjane for the info on Caleb. My original search started with Stephen brother to Caleb etc. I wondered why I couldn't find his brothers after the 1841 census now I know why. Many thanks to all who have helped me in my search. poppyann
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Re: John Southon
« Reply #27 on: Monday 03 March 08 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Stephen SOUTHON's will gives so much information.  There are links to the village of Marden.
Marden History Society have a great website


http://www.mardenhistory.org.uk/peoplemaster.htm

with indexes to baptisms, marriages burials and M.I.s.  There are several entries for the name SOUTHON.
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Re: John Southon
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Thanks bearkat and Sisterjane. I didn't know there was a Caleb Southon and haven't found birth information yet. I know the father of the Southon brothers was Henry b 1791 in Capel according to the 1841 census, can't find a birth or baptism for him. According to the information you gave to me bearkat Stephen was Henry's father in the will information, I can't find any record of him either. Can anyone help me please.poppyann
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Re: John Southon
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Baptisms for Tudeley & Capel 1702 - 1870 are on the IGI as are marriages 1663-1683  & 1702-1812 but I can't see your SOUTHONS. Sad
 
There are a couple of Stephen & Henry SOUTHON baptisms on the Marden Index but sadly no dates are given.

You could ask for more details but there is a charge, see:

http://www.mardenhistory.org.uk/a1_research.htm
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Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
YKS - Quirk, McGuire, Benn
Nott/Derbs - Slack
Hert - Barnes
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