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Topic: Wookey Parish C1764 - Samuel TYTE (Read 513 times)
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yjm
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Cornelius Tyte 1815-1891
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Hi
Does anyone have access to the Wookey Parish Register? I am trying to find the parents or siblings of a Samuel Tyte born c1764 Wookey.
He married Ann Curtis (born 17.10.1748 Wookey) in Wells St Cuthbert on 24.03.1788 They had 3 known children John William Plenty Curtis (1789), Cornelius (1791) and Elizabeth (1793) all born in Wookey. He married his 2nd wife a Sarah Stones in Walcot in Dec 1807 and had 2 more children Mary Ann (1809) and Louisa (1811) both born in Wookey.
Any help or advice much appreciated.
Kind Regards
Eve
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TYTE - Clock makers, Grocers - Somerset, Surrey
PLENTY, CURTIS - Millers, Yeoman Farmers - Somerset
MONK - Boatbuilders - Staffordshire, Worcestershire
MILLS - Sawyers, Joiners, Hackney Cab Proprietors - Warwickshire, London, Surrey
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kiwipom
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Try this link http://www.clavey.org/
David Clavey has information re the Curtis Family at Wookey
Tony
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Evans, (Marylebone).
Algate, (Wembury, Plymouth Devon)
Chammings, (Jacobstowe, Hatherleigh, Iddesleigh)
Chummings. (Jacobstowe, Devon)
Taylor, (Minterne, Dorset)
Taylor, Ozanne, le Huray. (Guernsey).
Dunn, ( North Grimston, Rillington).
Pickering, Forth, (Crowland, Spalding).
Forth, (Welney, Norfolk)
Roberts. (Ampthill).
Hippisley,Fry, Dagger. (Bath,Somerset).
Dyer, White. (Pontardawe. Bath.)
Rivis, (East Yorks.)
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yjm
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Hi GAJ
Thank you very much for such a thorough search of the Wookey Parish Register. 
Not sure quite where I go from here, Samuel (my 4 x great grandfather) was a clock/watchmaker & silversmith with a business Tyte & Son in Wells which was dissolved in 1820. At this time he was living in Warminster Wilts and also died there in 1832, so maybe he originally came from Wells or Warminster 
Thanks also for finding the baptism of Ann Curtis. Do you by chance have access to any marriage records for Wookey?
I believe that Ann's parents Cornelius Curits (born c1724 Wookey) & Ann Plenty (born c1726 Burcott) were married about 1745 in Wookey - their first known child John Plenty Curits (born 22nd Feb 1747 in Wookey). Cornelius along with his son Cornelius (born 22 Dec 1766 Wookey) were apparently millers at Burcott grist mill.
Would really appreciate the look up if you do
Kind Regards
Eve
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TYTE - Clock makers, Grocers - Somerset, Surrey
PLENTY, CURTIS - Millers, Yeoman Farmers - Somerset
MONK - Boatbuilders - Staffordshire, Worcestershire
MILLS - Sawyers, Joiners, Hackney Cab Proprietors - Warwickshire, London, Surrey
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yjm
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Hi CAJ
Thank you very much for the brilliant baptism info and for taking the time to look for the missing marriages, even though unsuccessful, your searches are very much appreciated.
Thanks once again, I'm really grateful.
Kind Regards
Eve
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TYTE - Clock makers, Grocers - Somerset, Surrey
PLENTY, CURTIS - Millers, Yeoman Farmers - Somerset
MONK - Boatbuilders - Staffordshire, Worcestershire
MILLS - Sawyers, Joiners, Hackney Cab Proprietors - Warwickshire, London, Surrey
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lazytee
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Hi Eve!
I've only just joined Rootschat and was interested to see your posting re Samuel Tyte, one of my collateral ancestors. May I suggest you try:
Samuel Tyte, baprtized 13 March 1763 at Landkey (North Devon)
son of Samuell Toyte, baptized 11 Ocotber1732, Bishops Tawton and Hester Jones married 19 May 1760 at Landkey, shown in the marriage register as TYTE
son of Robert Toyte bapt. 27 October 1697 at Abbotsham and Joan Davi married 27 April 1725 at Swinbridge
son of Robert Toyte and Joan of Abbotsham
Hope this is helpful, Eve.
Could anyone else help with where this latter Robert and Joan came from?
Kindest regards
Lazytee
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yjm
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Hi Lazytee
Welcome to Rootschat 
Many thanks for the info, I have to admit that I have not come across the Toyte variant of Tyte before, so sounds very interesting, although I have noticed that there are several Tyte's from Barnstaple Devon in the census records but to date have not been able to prove any links with my Somerset Tyte's.
I seem to have been up against the proverbial brickwall with Samuel Tyte for months  There doesn't seem to be many Tyte researchers out there, and I would dearly love to be able to connect with another branch of a Tyte tree.
Unfortunately, as you will see from previous Tyte posts, I live too far away for any local research but there are some really great Rootchatters out there who somehow find the time to help
Not sure how I can prove this is "my" Samuel Tyte but I will certainly explore the Toyte variant with fingers crossed !
Kind Regards
Eve
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PLENTY, CURTIS - Millers, Yeoman Farmers - Somerset
MONK - Boatbuilders - Staffordshire, Worcestershire
MILLS - Sawyers, Joiners, Hackney Cab Proprietors - Warwickshire, London, Surrey
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lazytee
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Hallo again Eve!
Thank you for the prompt reply to my message. There was a tradition in my family in the early 1900s that the Tyte name had once had an extra letter, but it was not until I went to the North Devon parish records that this was confirmed.
I have been revisiting my family records today after a long absence and find that my previous reply needs enlarging as follows:
In the 18th and early 19th centuries there seens to have been two centres of the name TYTE, one in the Barnstaple area of North Devon, the other in East Anglia. I know nothing of the latter group,
In Devon the earliest reference I have founds is to ROBERT and JOAN TOYTE, who had three children all baptized at ABBOTSHAM viz.
ROBERT TOYTE b. 27/10/1697
SARAH TOYTE b. 14/6/1699
MARY TOYTE b. 14/4/1700
JOAN was buried at ABBOTSHAM on 26/1/1748. I have found no record ofther burial of this Robert or of the marriage/burial of SARAH or MARY.
ROBERT TOYET (sic) married JOAN DAVI at SWIMBRIDGE on 27/4/ 1725 and was buried at BISHOPS TAWTON as was JOAN on 23/5/1794. CHILDREN of ROBERT and JOAN were baptized as follows:
ROBERT TOYT (sic) at SWIMBRIDGE on 1/1/1727
JOAN TOYTE at BISHOPS TAWTON on 3/5/1730
SAMUELL (sic) TOYTE " " on 11/10/1732
JOHN TOYTE at " " on 12/3/1734
GEORGE TOUTE at " " on 12/6/1737
HENRY TOYTE at " " on 21/7/1740
ELIZABETH TOYTE at " " on 1/7/1743
As I mentioned before SAMUELL TOYTE/TYTE married HESTER JONES at LANDKEY on 19/5/1760 and a son SAMUEL TYTE was baptized at LANDKEY on 17/3/1763. I can find no further references to SAMUELL, HESTER or SAMUEL in the North Devon parish records.
Looking further at my records, however, I also find that the above ROBERT (b.1/1/1727) who married ELINOR CAPPLE at ATHETRINGTON on 20/9/1735) had a son SAMUEL baptized at CHITTLEHAMPTON on 27/9/1764. Again, I have found no futher record of him.
Given the rarity of the name and the relative proximity of Somerset to North Devon, I would regard it as highly probable that one of these two cousins was your Samuel, but which?! There are several other
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lazytee
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Hi again Eve!
Whoops! A bit of finger trouble there, I'm afraid, and my message got posted by mistake, when I hadn't completed it. I hadn't edited yet either so there may be a few typos.
To continue.....
There are several other SAMUEL TYTES in the records, but all younger than these two, so it seems that Samuel became a family name.
Returning to the change of name:
ROBERT's marriage was registered as TITE (1753) and his children as:
CATTREIN TITE (1756)
ROBERT EDGAR TYTE (1758)
JOHN CHAPPLE TYTE (1760)
SARAH TYTE (1762)
SAMUEL TYTE (1764)
SAMUELL, baptized TOYTE in 1731, was TYTE when married in 1760
JOHN, baptized TOYTE in 1734, was TYTE when married in 1765, and his children were:
MOLLY TOYTE 1766, buried as MARY TYTE in 1767
JOHN TOYTE 1767, buried as TYTE in 1855
MARY TOYT 1769, married as TYTE in 1796
SARAH TOYT 1770
CHRISTIAN TOYTE 1773
ROBERT TYTE 1775
WILLIAM TYTE 1782
HENRY TOYTE (b. 1740) was TYTE when he married in 1775 and his 7 children 1776 - 1797 were all registered as TYTE.
ELIZABETH TOYTE (b.1743) was married as TYTE in 1765.
ROBERT, JOHN, HENRY and their wives were all buried as TYTE (1784 - 1826)
Thus the change seems to have started in the senior line about 1750 and extended through the cadet branches being completed by 1775.
All the parishes mentioned are around Barnstaple in North Devon.
I hope the above is of help and interest in your researches and apologize again for the slip up in getting this to you.
Best wishes,
Lazytee.
P.S. The GEORGE TOUTE in the previous message is not an error; he was recorded as TOUTE.
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yjm
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Hi Lazytee
Wow, what comprehensive research - thank you very much , it certainly is of interest but it's going to take me a while to assimilate it all, and like you say which Samuel might it be
Do you have any indication as to the occupations or social class of these early Toyte's/Tyte's or any connections in later years of a profession similar to watch/clockmaking or silversmiths amongst your line of Tyte's.
Unfortunately I don't know whether "my" Samuel was of similar standing to his wife Ann Curtis, but it would seem that the Curtis/Plenty family owned buildings and land, or did he marry into it?
Thanks once again
Kind Regards
Eve
ps - did you get my PM ?
pps - I noticed that you asked a question of other Rootschatters and the end of your first post - as this was a completed post it may be better to start a new one on the Lookup Requests board.
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PLENTY, CURTIS - Millers, Yeoman Farmers - Somerset
MONK - Boatbuilders - Staffordshire, Worcestershire
MILLS - Sawyers, Joiners, Hackney Cab Proprietors - Warwickshire, London, Surrey
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lazytee
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Hallo again Eve!
I'm glad the info I sent was of interest and hope you get some positive leads out of it.
I'm afraid I have very little info on the occupations and social standing of the TOYTE/TYTES in North Devon in the 18th century.
ROBERT TOYTE (b.1697) had seven children (5 male) and from their marriage records two of these brothers, JOHN (b. 1734) and HENRY (b.1740) were BUTCHERS.
In the next generaton (I have noted 20 individuals, 9 male, from baptism records spread between 1756 and 1797, and may have missed some), I find one farmer/yeoman and two seamen in the Royal Navy during the Napoleonic wars - one was a carpenter's mate, the other was promoted to Lieutenant and eventually by seniority to Commander; the fact that he did not make Post Captain indicates a lack of family "influence". Apart from some reasonably substantial family tombstones in Bishops Tawton parish churchyard, there is no indication of family wealth.
No links to the watchmaking or silversmith trades, I'm afraid.
Thank you for the suggestion of starting a new thread on the Lookup Board. Being a novice on Rootschat, I am not au fait with the best way of going about things.
All the best,
Lazytee.
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