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LissaM
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Googled for kicks and found your ( I assume) Oct 20, 2007 genforum post -- you have Mary Ann Gordon and James McGrath marrying in Coatsbridge in 1899 --- is that for sure or speculation??
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Hanan
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No consideration for us, eh? Tut-Tut!
I've got family who died but were never born. 
Poor James isn't that bad.
(What we need is a time machine!  )
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CURRIE & KERR Scotland, Bute, Isle of Arran
MCGRATH or MCGRAW Ireland, pre 1800's; Scotland, Wigtown early 1800’s; USA, Taft (CA), Jarbridge (NV) early 1900's
MCINTYRE & ROSS or MUNRO Scotland, Lanark & Inverness
SUTHERLAND & BUDGE, HAMILTON or GORDON Caithness, Halkirk Area 1700 & 1800's; Lanark 1900’s
WAUGH & THOMSON Ireland 1800's; Scotland, Maybole after 1840's
WYLLIE & HIGGINS Scotland, Lanarkshire & Ayrshire
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Hanan
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Googled for kicks and found your ( I assume) Oct 20, 2007 genforum post -- you have Mary Ann Gordon and James McGrath marrying in Coatsbridge in 1899 --- is that for sure or speculation??
lissa
Speculation of sorts... I found that marriage on IGI but haven't found a marriage certificate.
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CURRIE & KERR Scotland, Bute, Isle of Arran
MCGRATH or MCGRAW Ireland, pre 1800's; Scotland, Wigtown early 1800’s; USA, Taft (CA), Jarbridge (NV) early 1900's
MCINTYRE & ROSS or MUNRO Scotland, Lanark & Inverness
SUTHERLAND & BUDGE, HAMILTON or GORDON Caithness, Halkirk Area 1700 & 1800's; Lanark 1900’s
WAUGH & THOMSON Ireland 1800's; Scotland, Maybole after 1840's
WYLLIE & HIGGINS Scotland, Lanarkshire & Ayrshire
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LissaM
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hmmmmmmm ........ sorta works against the James found in Jarbridge in 1910 unmarried and immigrating in 1898!!!
She might not have come with him but she couldn't have married him after he left but maybe the 2 events are very close together -- marrying and leaving!
Any follow-up on Mary Ann Gordon McGrath in Scotland 1901 or 1911??
Think KathMc's suggestion to contact the local public library for an obit might be helpful.
That time machine would come in handy, wouldn't it 
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LissaM
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Couldn't duplicate your IGI findings for either a marriage for James or Mary Ann for some reason but I'm not the best on IGI searches. Was it an extracted record or a member submission??
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Hanan
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Can't find it now either. It was a few years back that I found the record. I shall persit.
I do however, remember being unsure it was my James McGrath. (I don't think any parents names were listed.)
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CURRIE & KERR Scotland, Bute, Isle of Arran
MCGRATH or MCGRAW Ireland, pre 1800's; Scotland, Wigtown early 1800’s; USA, Taft (CA), Jarbridge (NV) early 1900's
MCINTYRE & ROSS or MUNRO Scotland, Lanark & Inverness
SUTHERLAND & BUDGE, HAMILTON or GORDON Caithness, Halkirk Area 1700 & 1800's; Lanark 1900’s
WAUGH & THOMSON Ireland 1800's; Scotland, Maybole after 1840's
WYLLIE & HIGGINS Scotland, Lanarkshire & Ayrshire
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AMBLY
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Hi all
Found this marriage (exctraced)
James McGRAW and Mary GORDON
24 Oct 1868 Ardrossan. Ayr
Ardrossan, being where your James was born? Are these his parents (or a sibling of his father)?
Regarding the WW1 Draft registration - if your James proves to have died 1916, that can't be him!! Those enlistments are for 1917-1918.....I just twigged that one!
If your James was an unmarried prospector. and moving around - I would be less inclined to think the 1910 chap in Jarbidge is him after all - seems stretch to think he was there at least abt 6 years. But, could be wrong..... I would perhaps lean more on first finding someone who would check that Jarbidge Grave yard, and / or get the proof of death etc etc....
Try contacting the Elko County Officer in charge of County BDM's - his name and email are here:
http://www.elkocountynv.net/recorder.htm
I've actually contacted County Clerks in other US states for help and - where the county is a small one - I've found them really helpful!
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hanan
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Found this marriage (exctraced)
James McGRAW and Mary GORDON
24 Oct 1868 Ardrossan. Ayr
Ardrossan, being where your James was born? Are these his parents (or a sibling of his father)?
Yes James was born in Ardrossan but no this isn't any relation to the him. His father was James also and he married a Mary Kerr, 1871.
The little info I have on the James and Mary Ann Gordon is; James McGrath & Mary Ann Gordon, 1899, Coatbridge or Old Monkland (Lanark). I have no certificate to confirm if this is my James or not.
I've contacted both Elko County BMD Officer and State Archives, like you both suggested. Here's hoping they have something.
I tried this website http://dmla.clan.lib.nv.us/docs/shpo/NVCensus/FindPeople/Interface.asp but he's not listed there either. I am starting to think perhaps he was a drifter and I won't get him on any census.
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CURRIE & KERR Scotland, Bute, Isle of Arran
MCGRATH or MCGRAW Ireland, pre 1800's; Scotland, Wigtown early 1800’s; USA, Taft (CA), Jarbridge (NV) early 1900's
MCINTYRE & ROSS or MUNRO Scotland, Lanark & Inverness
SUTHERLAND & BUDGE, HAMILTON or GORDON Caithness, Halkirk Area 1700 & 1800's; Lanark 1900’s
WAUGH & THOMSON Ireland 1800's; Scotland, Maybole after 1840's
WYLLIE & HIGGINS Scotland, Lanarkshire & Ayrshire
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Hanan
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I have had replies from Northeastern Nevada Museum and Elko County Recorder neither can find any trace of James.
I am wondering if there is (or was) another place that could be "Yarbridge, USA". Does anyone know of somewhere in 1916 that could be where James died. Perhaps somewhere that no longer exists?
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CURRIE & KERR Scotland, Bute, Isle of Arran
MCGRATH or MCGRAW Ireland, pre 1800's; Scotland, Wigtown early 1800’s; USA, Taft (CA), Jarbridge (NV) early 1900's
MCINTYRE & ROSS or MUNRO Scotland, Lanark & Inverness
SUTHERLAND & BUDGE, HAMILTON or GORDON Caithness, Halkirk Area 1700 & 1800's; Lanark 1900’s
WAUGH & THOMSON Ireland 1800's; Scotland, Maybole after 1840's
WYLLIE & HIGGINS Scotland, Lanarkshire & Ayrshire
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LissaM
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Hi Hanan, as I'm sure your found when you googled "Yarbridge", after pages and pages of hits, the only things that appear are related to the Isle of Wright.
"Jarbidge" came from a (Sheshone, I think ??) Indian word and means nothing on it's own in English.
So, a few possible explanations --- I'm sure there may be more
1. No info on file at these 2 libraries or not a thorough enough search done
2. James was not in the area long enough to establish a history there or did not live in the town itself but was in some nameless outlying place
3. The name confusion (McGrath/McGraw) is causing a problem or he was using some other name
4. The family misunderstood or was misinformed as to the place where he died or was buried.
I think some of the sites given to you previously were people with local interest in the town's history. I would suggest contacting one of those folks to see what they know or if available to take a look at that graveyard for you. Remember the mention of the 1916 wooden grave which was unreadable??? Maybe a harder look
Since maybe he married Mary Ann Gordon before he got on the boat --- you might want to track down her and her family to see where that leads.
Sorry no magic wands in this business............... 
Good luck and keep us posted.
lissa
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Hanan
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Yes Lisa you are right on all those possibilities mainly the McGraw/McGrath problem. This has what has taken me so long to find both William and James. Happily we have now found William. Here's hoping we find James soon 
I've sent lots more emails to places in and around Nevada hoping someone can help. I'm also persuing the Mary Ann angle.
I'll let you know if I get anywhere.
Thanks everyone for your help.
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CURRIE & KERR Scotland, Bute, Isle of Arran
MCGRATH or MCGRAW Ireland, pre 1800's; Scotland, Wigtown early 1800’s; USA, Taft (CA), Jarbridge (NV) early 1900's
MCINTYRE & ROSS or MUNRO Scotland, Lanark & Inverness
SUTHERLAND & BUDGE, HAMILTON or GORDON Caithness, Halkirk Area 1700 & 1800's; Lanark 1900’s
WAUGH & THOMSON Ireland 1800's; Scotland, Maybole after 1840's
WYLLIE & HIGGINS Scotland, Lanarkshire & Ayrshire
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Hanan
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Hi All,
Been a while I know, but I thought I’d update you all on my search.
I have checked out the marriage in coatbridge of James McGrath & Mary Ann Gordon, 1899. It is a different James to mine, wrong parents. So I searched all marriages of James McGrath or McGraw in Scotland around that time and none are my James. So I think it is fair to say he did not marry in Scotland.
I’ve also have a good number of emails back that I sent to places in and around Jarbidge and Nevada state. No one has been able to find any trace of James. All have said the same – nothing for James McGrath or James McGraw in the time frame. The only one death found was a James McGrath who died in Elko while traveling on a train, in 1939. I’ve checked him out, he was born in the states.
I now think the “Yarbridge, USA” on the tombstone is wrong. Perhaps he lived there for a while searching for gold. Left there, dying somewhere else. Any thoughts?
Hanan
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CURRIE & KERR Scotland, Bute, Isle of Arran
MCGRATH or MCGRAW Ireland, pre 1800's; Scotland, Wigtown early 1800’s; USA, Taft (CA), Jarbridge (NV) early 1900's
MCINTYRE & ROSS or MUNRO Scotland, Lanark & Inverness
SUTHERLAND & BUDGE, HAMILTON or GORDON Caithness, Halkirk Area 1700 & 1800's; Lanark 1900’s
WAUGH & THOMSON Ireland 1800's; Scotland, Maybole after 1840's
WYLLIE & HIGGINS Scotland, Lanarkshire & Ayrshire
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LissaM
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Hi Hanan, sorry to hear nothing has worked it's self through so back to the drawing board, eh ??
Since before we were focusing on the "Yarbridge" angle and trying to connect everything else to it, would say start fresh from the" beginning" with what you feel is solid evidence and see where things might lead. I'll play around a little tonite but I'm going to be away for a several days so hopefully in the meantime someone else can begin again and see if any new leads can be developed.
Good luck!!
lissa
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Hanan
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Hi Lissa,
Thanks for the sympathy and the tip
I'll have a "fresh" look at what I have and see if anything jumps out - hopefully!
Thanks for the help.
Hanan
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CURRIE & KERR Scotland, Bute, Isle of Arran
MCGRATH or MCGRAW Ireland, pre 1800's; Scotland, Wigtown early 1800’s; USA, Taft (CA), Jarbridge (NV) early 1900's
MCINTYRE & ROSS or MUNRO Scotland, Lanark & Inverness
SUTHERLAND & BUDGE, HAMILTON or GORDON Caithness, Halkirk Area 1700 & 1800's; Lanark 1900’s
WAUGH & THOMSON Ireland 1800's; Scotland, Maybole after 1840's
WYLLIE & HIGGINS Scotland, Lanarkshire & Ayrshire
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