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Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« on: Monday 03 March 08 19:36 GMT (UK) »

Does anyone remember this pub in Altrincham, relatives of mine ran the pup, the surname was Brookes.  If anyone has pictures of the pub or the owners/managers I would appreciate seeing them.
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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 March 08 19:40 GMT (UK) »

Hi
here is one photo of it

http://www.altrincham-living.co.uk/axe_and_cleaver.htm

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 17:39 GMT (UK) »

For photos - 3 anyway - try the following

Google Trafford Lifetimes
(This is a site of photographs of Trafford which includes Altrincham and Dunham - where the Exe & Cleaver is.)
Choose Dunham under the heading Location
and enter as Keyword Axe.

You should get three photos.

At what period were your family there?

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 April 08 16:54 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Be careful about pictures of the Axe & Cleaver Pub - there are two in the Altrincham area. The one sent to you in a previous post is not the one which was in Altrincham Town Centre, it is a few miles away in the village of Dunham Massey.

The Trafford Lifetimes Picture will be the right one,  I have lived in the area all my life and passed it every day on my way home from school. Unfortunately it no longer exists, it was demolished in the early 70's to make way for a new development in the main shopping street. You may be interested to know that the short hill which led up from the pub was always called the 'Axe & Cleaver Brew' and although only a small part of the road remains, most native Altys still refer to it as the 'Axe & Cleaver'

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 April 08 17:36 BST (UK) »

Jac

Which street was the Axe and Cleaver on in Altrincham?  Which school were you going home from when you passed it?  The pub name rings a bell with me, but it's amazing how once you move away from a place you begin to forget the landmarks and it is 45 years since I left the area.

Lizzie

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 April 08 20:45 BST (UK) »

Lizzie,

I've just replied to your post re the Berry family, but now for the Axe & Cleaver pub.

It was at the bottom of Kingsway where it joined George Street. Kingsway runs down from the Old Market Place (where the black & white buildings are). I used to ride all the way down George St on my way home from Altrincham Grammar to my home off Barrington Road. After I married in 1967 I moved away for 8yrs and then returned to live in Sale  where I still live.

My Mum was born, lived all her life and died in the same house in Altrincham. I never really got into FH until after she died in 2002. Don't you just always want to tell your Mum what you've found out?
I find it so frustrating.

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 April 08 22:44 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the link to Trafford.  I believe my relatives would have been owners of the pub, in the early 1900s, or possibly right around the turn of the century.  I walked past the pub on my way to school at Loreto almost every day and never knew the history until the past couple of years.
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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 April 08 23:41 BST (UK) »

Jac

I know where you mean now.  I have on my wall a sketch of the Old Bank, one of the black and white buildings, which I got from my mum's place after she died.  Was/is there a theatre on Barrington Road, called The Garrick?  We used to go there on Saturday mornings for drama school, not that we were any good.

I thought you might have gone to Altrincham Grammar, so did I but I left in 1958 after the Lower VIth form as it was called then.  I see you are about 4 years younger than me, so I guess you would have been at the end of your 2nd year. 

Did you find The Downs on your map.  I imagine when you came out of school and turned left, down the Higher Downs, you then turned left somewhere to get to Kingsway and George Street.  If instead you had continued down the hill, that is The Downs.  It takes you down to Stamford New Road, which is where the Manchester buses used to turn round.

Inprincegeorge - Oddly, I remembered where Loreta Convent was more easily than I remembered where George Street was.  Was North Cestrian School next door?  My brother went there.

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 April 08 12:52 BST (UK) »

Having blotted ny copybook with forgetting that there was an Axe and Cleaver in Altrincham, I just wondered wheher it was worth adding this memory. 

My memory of the Axe and Cleaver is of the stone(?) steps which were alongside it allowing people to climb from the George Street level up to the Chester Road level. I never saw anyone using them though  Smiley

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 12 April 08 13:02 BST (UK) »

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Was/is there a theatre on Barrington Road, called The Garrick?
- it's still there. There was a big refurbishment a few years ago, so you may not recognise it
http://www.altrinchamgarrick.co.uk/
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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 April 08 15:08 BST (UK) »

Lizzie,

I was at ACGSG until 1960 when I left the Vth form to work in Manchester. Did you know Miss Okell died only a few years ago? It was reported in the local Messenger. I think she was living in North Wales.

We came straight down the Downs and then usually turned into George Street via a little link road which was an extension of Railway Street. I used to get all my comics from a little newsagents at the bottom end of George Street right near the Axe & Cleaver.

Does anyone remember the Stamford Hall?

I lived very near to the Garrick and Reiver's right, the refurbishment has made a great difference, it's much more professional looking now.

Jac
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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 12 April 08 15:34 BST (UK) »

Jac

I do remember Miss Okell.  We didn't like her (to put it very mildly).  In our first year we had a lovely old headmistress called Miss Drought.  When she retired, we were all expecting someone just as nice, instead the Governors appointed an old girl of the school who came from a well off local family  The first thing she did was start to change the school uniform, which had been very traditional, and I know after I left the girls had green duffel coats.  There were other reasons we didn't like her and one or two other teachers, which I won't give.

I did know she had died.  My friend (who died recently) who was also an old girl of the school, had a younger sister who worked in an old peoples' home,  along Dunham Road or that area I think.  She told us about Miss Okell.  I got the impression she had died in the nursing home, but perhaps not.  I know we were told that a garage door had fallen on her head.  Was that right?

I remember the Stamford Hall.  My dad used to take me to wrestling matches there when I was about 9-10 years old.  Also the swimming baths, which were nearly opposite the station.  I used to be outside waiting for them to open every morning during school holidays, but that was before I went to the Grammar School.

mshrmh - Thank you for the Garrick website.  I was interested to note that they started a Young Garrick Club in 1958 for 15-18 year olds.  When I used to go with my friends, all dragged along by one girl who wanted to be an actress, it was around 1954/5 and even if it was a group for young people, it didn't have a special name.  I've a photograph of me on the stage - I've no idea what the play was, I was only an extra near the back - but from the clothes must have been something set in the 19th century.

Lizzie

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 02:44 BST (UK) »

Did any of you go to the Tuesday and Saturday night dances at the Stamford Hall.  I saw some wonderful groups and artists in the 60s, it was a great night out for a few shillings.

I remember the old Altrincham Baths, I learnt to swim in them, I recall being dragged around on a rope by the instructer, I think it was a case of learn to swim or drown!!!!
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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 19:57 BST (UK) »


YYou know it's great talking to someone who remembers. Did you ever go to the Locarno on a Saturday night?

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Re: Axe and Cleaver, Altrincham.
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 April 08 12:16 BST (UK) »

Hi

That all brings back memories. I went to Culcheth Hall on Ashley Road but my best friend went to Altrincham Grammar and I remember her mentioning Miss Okell frequently. Our head was Miss Ruth Brownson and she was like a 2nd mother. My cousin went to Loreto Convent and Mum was always going on about how much better mannered she was than her own unruly daughter Grin

Also went to Altrincham Baths. We had to form a "crocodile" and march very nicely through the town. Nearly drowned - we had to form a line, ready to jump in from the side and I was at the wrong end! Thought I'd never surface.

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