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please could someone look at a death for me
« on: Monday 03 March 08 23:15 GMT (UK) »

Looking for a death record of Percy william Pepler, without sucess, i have no birth date for him, but i do know that he married in 1908 to sarah fenn in reading ,berks.
Sarah remarried to a jennings in 1916. Although i can find this marriage listed, i cannot find a first name for jennings.

If you could assume that sarah remarried due to pepler dying, then you could guess he died between 1908 and 1916, but that is a guess as there is no record of this that i can find, if anyone could help i would be very grateful, also if anyone can find either of these on census that would be brilliant, but am i right in thinking that there is no viewable cencus for 1910 on wards.

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Alison.
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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 00:49 GMT (UK) »

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but am i right in thinking that there is no viewable cencus for 1910 on wards.

Spot on - the 1911 census will only be released in 2011 so 1901 is the last available

Looking at the 1901 - you say he was Percy William.  There are only 4 Percy Pepler's.  One was Percy Brown Pepler and another was Percy Ernest. 

There is a Percy H but he was only b 1896 so too young to have married in 1908

That just leaves Percy born 1887 Canada living in Bath with parents Joseph & Mary A

Sarah married Richard Jennings

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then you could guess he died between 1908 and 1916, but that is a guess as there is no record of this that i can find,


Have you only looked at the partially transcribed index on freebmd?    Transcriptions for those years are a bit thinner on the ground than earlier years so you will need to search the full GRO index  which is available at your nearest main library if you live in the UK.  It can also be searched online if you have an Ancestry subscription or at www.findmypast.com which is a paysite


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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 00:51 GMT (UK) »

freebmd has a birth for William Percy Pepler Dec qtr 1892 Watford Hertfordshire
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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 01:01 GMT (UK) »

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Looking for a death record of Percy william Pepler, without sucess, i have no birth date for him, but i do know that he married in 1908 to sarah fenn in reading ,berks.

I think you have mixed up some names here - these are the names from the freebmd 1908 marriage entry which may explain why you can't find a death for Percy William Pepler!!

Jane Aubury
Sarah Ann Fenn
Percy William Hatto
Eli Pepler



Eli Pepler aged 74 Sept qtr 1914  Reading  Volume: 2c Page: 379

How old was Sarah Fenn when she remarried??
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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 08:30 GMT (UK) »

Morning all thank you for looking, pepler was Sarah's 2nd husband and sarah was 48 when she married him.

Sarah's marriage to Mr Peppler

Marriages Dec 1908   
AUBURY  Jane    Reading  2c 908   
FENN  Sarah Ann     Reading  2c 908   
HATTO  Percy William     Reading  2c 908   
PEPLER  Eli     Reading  2c 908   

This is the info i was working on for the marriage.

on looking at it again would i be right in thinking it was a percy william hatto she would of married?
If so ,then this is the wrong marriage, she definately married a Peplar, So maybe i should go back and look at the marriage records again.
Thank you for your help
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Alison.

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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 09:04 GMT (UK) »

Did she not marry Eli Pepler?

His death:

Sep 1914, age 74, Reading 2c 379
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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 09:55 GMT (UK) »

Yes you maybe right, thank you, just thought it made for a very short marriage, i have listed details of cenus from her first marriage, and i know she was with john until he died, if it was eli pepler it weould make for a very short marriage, but she did go on to marry a jennings, in 1916, so it would tie in with all the dates.
Thank you very much this site is so helpful,  i shall now look into eli jennings and check i read the info from my searches properly.


In the 1891 census, John is living at Guildford, Surrey.
Head of house: John Fenn, Age 69.
Wife: Sarah Anne Fenn, Age 30.
Son: Herbert Fenn, Age 4 months.

In the 1901 census John is living at 41Radstock Road , Reading, Berks.
Head of house: John Fenn, Age 79.
Wife: Sarah Fenn, Age 39.
Son: Herbert Fenn, Age 10.

John fenn’s Death is recorded in December 1903 Reading, Berks . Age 82.

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Alison
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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 10:13 GMT (UK) »

But she didn't marry an Eli Jennings?

Sarah A PEPLER married Richard Jennings in Sept 1/4 of 1916 in Reading.
Reference-volume 2c page 845 if you wanted to get the cert.

Hope this helps
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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 10:20 GMT (UK) »

I think you will need to get some of the certificates - she married Eli Pepler, not Eli Jennings.

If he IS the right one, he was quite old when he died/married her. NB when you get the possible partners in marriages it can be EITHER of them, so as you know she was a Pepler at some point, Eli seems to make sense.
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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 10:28 GMT (UK) »

Sorry think i confused you all John fenn was sarahs 1st husband
Pepler was sarahs 2nd husband and jennings her 3rd husband. makes for a confusing tree.
there was some years in age between her and john, so i think she was partial to the older man.

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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 10:44 GMT (UK) »

 Smiley

The confusion set in when you called one husband Eli Jennings instead of Richard Jennings.

We understand that she first married John Fenn.
Second married Eli Pepler.
Third married Richard Jennings.

Poor dear.....did she outlive Jennings as well?

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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 12:16 GMT (UK) »

ooops sorry about that typing error on my part meant to sat eli pepler.
My head has been spinning with this for the last few weeks and sometimes confusion on my behalf sets in.

But just one more quiry, is the freebmd listings totally acurate or is it possible that on some occasions they could be a year or two out.
Reason i ask is that they have a birth of Eli Pepler listed for1838, born in Melksham.
If this is my pepler in question, free bmd also list a Eli pepler who died sept 1914 age 74. by my calculation if this is the same birth/ death then that would of made him 76. not 74 as stated on free bmd.

Sorry again and thanks for your help.
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alison
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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 12:36 GMT (UK) »

Not that this will be of much help but Ancestry has only one birth and one death:

Eli Pepler
Birth: 1838 4th quarter
District:  Melksham, Wiltshire


Eli Pepler
birth: approx 1840
death: 1914 3rd quarter
District: Reading, Berkshire

They also say he was 74 at death but they estimated the birth wrong by 2 years.

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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 12:39 GMT (UK) »

Sorry forgot the vol. and page information

FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983

birth:  Vol. 8  Page 340

FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983

death:  Vol. 26  Page 377

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Re: please could someone look at a death for me
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 12:44 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Dolly, that was the info i was looking at. And would make sense of her marriage to Richard jennings 2 years later in 1916.
I have no idea if she outlived Jennings, but she obviously had a liking to older men.
I do know that Pepler was referred to as an old sea captian.

And she died  as Sarah jennings around 1943.
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